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Old May 10, 2005 | 01:35 AM
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Old May 10, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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i had a cat-back system on my civic and i got pulled over and was told to change it and it wasnt loud at all. i ended up buying a stock rear section and bolted it to the piping. i was in court for no more than 10 minutes. all the dude did was ask me if the stock muffler was on and i said yes and he told me to leave.
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Old May 10, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JoePannone
i had a cat-back system on my civic and i got pulled over and was told to change it and it wasnt loud at all. i ended up buying a stock rear section and bolted it to the piping. i was in court for no more than 10 minutes. all the dude did was ask me if the stock muffler was on and i said yes and he told me to leave.
I called up the court, and someone told me that the ticket is going to cost me $100 dollars, and i feel it's straight BS, so I'm still trying my hardest to find a way out. On thursday i'm going to head over to the library, and look up the ordinance if there is one. On the site that cowanpp gave me there is no such ordinance, so I think the cop made a mistake. If there's a mistake on ticket involving the violation, I don't see why the ticket should not be thrown out. The bottom line is he pulled me over because my car looks souped up. If it wasn't the exhaust he would've found some other bs.
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Old May 10, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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I called up the court, and someone told me that the ticket is going to cost me $100 dollars, and i feel it's straight BS, so I'm still trying my hardest to find a way out. On thursday i'm going to head over to the library, and look up the ordinance if there is one. On the site that cowanpp gave me there is no such ordinance, so I think the cop made a mistake. If there's a mistake on ticket involving the violation, I don't see why the ticket should not be thrown out. The bottom line is he pulled me over because my car looks souped up. If it wasn't the exhaust he would've found some other bs.
yea when the cop pulled me over he didnt see the bright yellow bel air that went by me going faster than the speed limit, its was louder than my civic if it had an open downpipe. i was just cruising and he got me. if you still have your stock exhaust i would just put it on for a month or so and then just put your exhaust back on, it you want you can just add a resonator to it to quiet things down a bit.
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Old May 10, 2005 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JoePannone
yea when the cop pulled me over he didnt see the bright yellow bel air that went by me going faster than the speed limit, its was louder than my civic if it had an open downpipe. i was just cruising and he got me. if you still have your stock exhaust i would just put it on for a month or so and then just put your exhaust back on, it you want you can just add a resonator to it to quiet things down a bit.
I bought the car with an aftermarket mffler and short ram intake. I don't have any of the stock parts. I looked in the parts sections, but didn't find anything. I was just going to change the intake.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by civicburner
. The bottom line is he pulled me over because my car looks souped up. If it wasn't the exhaust he would've found some other bs.
Yeah, but the bottom line also is that your car is in violation of the law (Both the NYS Vehicle and Traffic Law and apparently Mount Vernon City Ordinances), so he had every right to stop you and issue you a summons.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by str8edgexx
Yeah, but the bottom line also is that your car is in violation of the law (Both the NYS Vehicle and Traffic Law and apparently Mount Vernon City Ordinances), so he had every right to stop you and issue you a summons.

Unless there was a decibel reading, he wasn't in violation of Mt. Vernon law. I don't know about general New York law, but if it is worded anything like that first section of the Mt. Vernon statute (the catch-all phrase) I'd say he's got an easy 5th amendment void for vagueness challenge to it. Can't have a subjective standard of loud, has to be definable and measurable so us lowly citizens can conform our behavior. Subjective standard doesn't do that.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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Old May 11, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cowanpp
Unless there was a decibel reading, he wasn't in violation of Mt. Vernon law. I don't know about general New York law, but if it is worded anything like that first section of the Mt. Vernon statute (the catch-all phrase) I'd say he's got an easy 5th amendment void for vagueness challenge to it. Can't have a subjective standard of loud, has to be definable and measurable so us lowly citizens can conform our behavior. Subjective standard doesn't do that.
I'm sure there is volumes and volumes of case that contrary to what you just said. The city where I work (which is about 10 minutes away from MV) had similarly worded laws regarding noise ordinances, and people are written and convicted for violating it on a regular basis. If a reasonable person would consider it disturbing the peace, then you're guilty. It doesn't have to be spelled out specifically....its all based on the standard of reasonable objectiveness.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by str8edgexx
I'm sure there is volumes and volumes of case that contrary to what you just said. The city where I work (which is about 10 minutes away from MV) had similarly worded laws regarding noise ordinances, and people are written and convicted for violating it on a regular basis. If a reasonable person would consider it disturbing the peace, then you're guilty. It doesn't have to be spelled out specifically....its all based on the standard of reasonable objectiveness.
What if the violation number is wrong?
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