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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DaKarMaul
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300 priuses ahahahahahaahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahahahaahahah ahahahaahahahahaahhahahaahahahhhaahahahahahaahahah ahahahaahahahahahahaahahahahah
i left out a 0 its supposed to be 3000....and yes thats ALL they were allowed to sell last year...people right now are on 6 month waiting lists to buy a prius from any toyota dealership...the only ones who dont wait 6 months are buying the used demo cars they have
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MahoneyL80
i left out a 0 its supposed to be 3000....and yes thats ALL they were allowed to sell last year...people right now are on 6 month waiting lists to buy a prius from any toyota dealership...the only ones who dont wait 6 months are buying the used demo cars they have

well which is it then? first you say there were not allowed to produce more than 300 + 0. now you're saying they were only allowed to sell 3000?

last i recall US government has no say in how many a certain vehicle can be produced in foreign country.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DaKarMaul
well which is it then? first you say there were not allowed to produce more than 300 + 0. now you're saying they were only allowed to sell 3000?

last i recall US government has no say in how many a certain vehicle can be produced in foreign country.
i MEANT to say they were capped at 3000...like i said it was a typo on my part...and last year the government capped toyota at producing no more than 3000 cars for american sale. and the government has a say in anything and everything thats being produced. and considering most japanese cars have manufacturing plants here in the states it is under our rules and regs not japanese rules and regs..about 85% of the toyotas sold in america are made in america with american labor and most of them made with parts produced in america....like i said this is what i learned about the prius and other hybrid cars like it when i started working for TOYOTA so this isnt hear-say this isnt some bogus news report and this isnt propaganda...next your going to tell me that i dont know anything about the military when i was in the army for 3 yrs
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by antarius
You know, if the world warms up (which it does naturally anyway), that will create some loss of habitat, without a doubt.

It will also create more rains, which may cause some problems in some area's, but will also make now un-inhabitable area's (like big deserts) habitable and full of life again.

There's two sides to every coin.

Now, to answer your question:

Not in our lifetime.
Actually, last summer, there was a heat wave that swept across Europe, killing thousands of people. Recent research has shown that it it was statistically significantly tied to human impacts on the environment.

We are already seeing the effects of global environmental change. Mostly this is reflected in more variable and extreme weather, the expansion of deserts, change in rain patterns, loss of delicate and temperature sensitive habitats like coral reefs, and other such negative effects... Unfortunately, since it doesn't look like Day After Tomorrow, many people are pushing it to the side claiming it's minor, or may not even exist at all. The fact is that the worldwide environment is changing faster than it has ever naturally done before (with the exception of cataclyismic disasters striking the planet) should be more than enough of a signal that something's wrong...


Dunno, when 1500 of the world's most influential scientists sign this document, something must be awry:
http://dieoff.org/page8.htm
(I know the formatting on that page is horrilbe, but it's just a transcription of an actual document)
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by MahoneyL80
i MEANT to say they were capped at 3000...like i said it was a typo on my part...and last year the government capped toyota at producing no more than 3000 cars for american sale. and the government has a say in anything and everything thats being produced. and considering most japanese cars have manufacturing plants here in the states it is under our rules and regs not japanese rules and regs..about 85% of the toyotas sold in america are made in america with american labor and most of them made with parts produced in america....like i said this is what i learned about the prius and other hybrid cars like it when i started working for TOYOTA so this isnt hear-say this isnt some bogus news report and this isnt propaganda...next your going to tell me that i dont know anything about the military when i was in the army for 3 yrs

Let me put it this way. Someone telling me they did this or they did that doesn't mean shit, especially whey you consider the fact that dispite having done this or that, the person still doesn't know what they're talking about.

Having a few years experience and knowing the facts are two great different things.


Oh yeah and I'm waiting for you to call me a kid again.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MahoneyL80
....like i said this is what i learned about the prius and other hybrid cars like it when i started working for TOYOTA so this isnt hear-say this isnt some bogus news report and this isnt propaganda
Originally Posted by DaKarMaul
Let me put it this way. Someone telling me they did this or they did that doesn't mean shit, especially whey you consider the fact that dispite having done this or that, the person still doesn't know what they're talking about.

Having a few years experience and knowing the facts are two great different things.


Oh yeah and I'm waiting for you to call me a kid again.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 09:20 AM
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The reason most people are complete bastards to the environment, though, is because of 2 things: Short-sighted economics and lack of personal responsibility. The whole economic arguement against the environment is based on shortsighted needs of companies to make returns within 2 years to be competative with our economy, ubt that's more of a failure of the insititution than the company itself (As the company's true sole responsibility is to maximize profit. It's up to the system to make it so that environmentally sound conduct is what's most profitable). The second is that everyone says "Oh, I'm one little person of 6 billion... what impact to I personally have?". Well, with the Us consuming 50% of the world's resources, I'd say we have a fairly large personal impact. We have to realize we all have to work together to protect ourselves, and every person's imput counts. And if that smart decision is to decide to reduce your gasoline consumption by half, and just half of the US makes the same decision, the impact would be monumental.



But yeah, the reason we haven't switched to a cleaner fuel is that the people in power would start to lose money, and so they prioritize their money over our health. That's the way its been for the last 20 years or so...
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 09:20 AM
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right learned. which is what you about vtec and VVT-i

yeah whatever. this thread is :closed:
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