So you need your assault rifle to go hunting, huh?
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From: Lll
Originally Posted by Tobra
It does not. He apparently threatened his wife with a gun a few years ago, but she would not press charges. I think he was just pissed because some people asked him to leave their property and responded with deadly force. If more than one of the guys he intially shot had a rifle, he may not have killed so many
I think it does. Traditionally, if someone asks for you to leave their property, one leaves. That is in the USA. We understand what property is. Back where the Hmong live, there wasnt property like that. There probably was no such thing as claiming land of your own without doing something obvious like building a fence around it. So what if the guy didnt understand why he was asked to leave. And Hmong men store a lot of pride...what if he was thinking that this group of people was threatning him, or for a lack of a better word, punking him. He would stand for something like that. But again, I am no expert. None of us was there to first hand see what occured. And I am not trying to justify what he did.
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Originally Posted by GSRRacer95
What a joke!! This guy should hang.
yeah you got the right idea... i dont care what provoked this guy, it doesnt justify 6 dead and 2 recovering injury.
hang him, shoot him, gas chamber i dont really care how he goes but no way this guy can walk...
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From: Milwaukee, WI
Originally Posted by WiLL
It is a book by Fadiman. Also very informative and emotional. I wa close to shedding a tear at times. It is a quantatative research on a Hmong family, focusing on their baby's seizures and the clash between two cultures (American and Hmong) in the hospitals. It is a great book that opened my eyes.
And this article being about a Hmong man, we have to realize what type of people these Hmong are. They are generally VERY recent refugees, and arent the type of people that easily assimulate to American cultures, meaning they are still hold a very strong sense of identity and pride. So strong, that I guess being told what to do, he had to retaliate.
But I am not trying to justify the incident. What he did was not right.
And this article being about a Hmong man, we have to realize what type of people these Hmong are. They are generally VERY recent refugees, and arent the type of people that easily assimulate to American cultures, meaning they are still hold a very strong sense of identity and pride. So strong, that I guess being told what to do, he had to retaliate.
But I am not trying to justify the incident. What he did was not right.
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From: Lll
Originally Posted by brtecson
Yep, Faderman did some great work. Since reading her work, I have a great deal of respect for Hmong people. :usa:
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Originally Posted by Kai
The SKS began production in Russia in 1949 and continued until about 1955, when they sold the tooling to China. Production began there, and continued until somewhere in the late 80's or early 90's, noone is quite sure. In that time period, the SKS was also produced by East Germany, Albaniana, Yugoslavia, North Vietnam (supposedly,) Romania, and possibly a couple other combloc countries.
My sources say 1956.
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Thanks for the facts, it got me into researching about both now. :thumbup:
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The suspect's side of the story's leaking out, now.
He says that somebody fired at him as he was walking away.
He also says that they were using racially derogatory language when they confronted him.
He says that somebody fired at him as he was walking away.
He also says that they were using racially derogatory language when they confronted him.
pukimonster
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From: Milwaukee, WI
Originally Posted by George Knighton
The suspect's side of the story's leaking out, now.
He says that somebody fired at him as he was walking away.
He also says that they were using racially derogatory language when they confronted him.
He says that somebody fired at him as he was walking away.
He also says that they were using racially derogatory language when they confronted him.
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From: Syracuse, NY... again.
Originally Posted by George Knighton
The suspect's side of the story's leaking out, now.
He says that somebody fired at him as he was walking away.
He also says that they were using racially derogatory language when they confronted him.
He says that somebody fired at him as he was walking away.
He also says that they were using racially derogatory language when they confronted him.
Oh and spanky. I apologise for the sterotype. I know not all hunters are white phatties, but are there alot of black and hispanic hunters out there all dressed in orange? I wasn't aware of that, but regardless. My bad spanky.
