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Old 11-08-2004, 04:49 PM
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Well, a HAN member IMed me asking a few turbo questions.

He is running a stock LS b18b1 motor and he wants to do internals in order to run boost, but he is only planning on running 6psi daily. I told him that most likely, the B18B1 being the boost whore it is , probably will not need internals for just 6 pounds. What does everyone think of this? He is looking to save as much money as possible.. so... I just need confirmation of my theory for his peace of mind.
Old 11-08-2004, 04:51 PM
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6 pounds on factory internals is doable.

I would want to make sure the internals are in good shape though before going forward with boosting it.
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Old 11-08-2004, 04:52 PM
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I've known of people running 9-10 with no issues :dunno:
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Originally Posted by Derek
I've known of people running 9-10 with no issues :dunno:


so have I. I think its all in the tuning really.
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it should be safe. I've seen ppl running 12lbs on that thing. Tunning is the key though.
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that guy is me btw, my b-day / xmas is coming. Ls i understand will get great gains from turbo.

well what i want to know is how much psi is good for daily driver and safe? with a boost control of course with stock internals and if i were to get the internals replaced, how much safe capable boost can i then run daily / at the strip?

i'm looking at drag gen 3 for the turbo kit. i know there's alist of other things that needs to be purchased but i'm currently reading about what they do to get a better idea of what's going into my car. thanks.
Old 11-08-2004, 05:06 PM
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7-10 psi you're fine.

Built motor with stock sleeves....15psi for an average tuner. If you have a good tune, you can go higher....with the appropiate race gas of course.

If you plan on tuning it in SD, try AEBS. I believe my old tuner now tunes there.
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Originally Posted by DC2
7-10 psi you're fine.

Built motor with stock sleeves....15psi for an average tuner. If you have a good tune, you can go higher....with the appropiate race gas of course.

If you plan on tuning it in SD, try AEBS. I believe my old tuner now tunes there.

I didnt realize that AEBS does tuning as well.
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okay here's what i got:
7-10 psi with stock enternals
and up to 15 with built internals
anyone else back this up?

sounds like since i'm student, i think my decision would be staying stock internals. the gains from turbo are pretty cool.

here's my other question, i'm trying to populate a parts list so i can reasearch functions/prices.

turbo kit i'm looking at Drag gen 3

Turbonetics T04/T3 Turbocharger
DRAG 4 into 1 Cast Iron Turbo Exhaust Manifold
Turbonetics Deltagate Mark II Wastegate
DRAG Front Mount Intercooler (Polished Cast Aluminum End Tanks)
HKS Super Sequential Blow-Off Valve
DRAG Mandrel-Bent Chrome-Plated Piping
DRAG 2.5" Exhaust Down Pipe
DRAG Wastegate Dump Tube
DRAG Blue Silicone Couplers and Clamps
DRAG High Pressure/High Volume Inline Fuel Pump
DRAG Vortech Boost Dependent FMU
DRAG Intake Air Filter Assembly
Map Sensor Bypass Valves
Stainless Steel Braided Oil Feed Line w/ Fittings
Oil Return Line Assembly
All Necessary Hardware and Fittings
All Necessary Hoses and Hose Clamps
All Necessary Gaskets

other parts that do not come with kit


MSD Ignition With Wires
Electronic Boost Controller
Electronic A/F Controller (FMU or EMS (Hondata)
injecters (depends on boost or power) w/ clips
Boost Gauge
Temp Gauge
Pressure Gauge
exhuast 2'5 piping ( pick anyone should work fine i hear, depends on your taste in sound right?).
intercooler (now i dunno about this i hear intercoolers are 5' piping (that's huge!) and recommended for 270hp for usage, my ls is running at 140, and then around 240 once i turbo with stock internals. doesn't seem like i need this part right?).
t’s for the vacuum line (what is this btw).
vacuum line

Fuel Injectors: peak / hold
Fuel Management: hondata
Fuel Pump: Holley "version" for $169 from Summit Racing (that fatty guy's suggested purchase from a different thread).

and a performence ecu (brain of a car).

what am i missing or i don't need ? thanks

*edit: i'm gonna be looking at the t3, since ls redlines at 6800, t4's would be a little big. anyone know what rpm the turbo starts spooling at?
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I have turbo experience.

What year is your car?



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