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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 10:39 PM
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It definately shows that BinLaden is fearing Bush. He wouldnt be bashing him repeatedly if he didnt want Bush out of Power.

Seems to me like BinLaden is working for the Kerry Campaign


This video has made Terrorism the #1 concern to voters and all polls show bush with massive leads over kerry in all aspects of Terrorism. THis is quite possibly the straw that broke the Kerry campaigns back
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 11:25 PM
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Kerry '04!
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by wedley2
Kerry '04!
Bin Laden '04... that's what your statement means in this thread. shut up with that.

Die already, bin laden DIAF!!!11
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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 04:54 AM
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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Epoch
He mentioned Kerry once, saying we're not safe saying if we elect Bush or Kerry... can you even read?
I don't know, can you draw your own conclusions and argue them effectively?

Read the thing...look how much he hates Bush. He sounds like the Democratic Part line.
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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by White[Pony]
Bin Laden '04... that's what your statement means in this thread. shut up with that.

Die already, bin laden DIAF!!!11
You have the debate skills of a three year old.

That is not what voting for Kerry means...but I suppose it was only a matter of time before some idiot dropped it to that level and it appears as though you and Blackmagic have hit that low mark for us.

Congratulations
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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by More&Faster
well thats a pretty strong opinion. i happen to believe what he's saying. i think he's being more honest than bush has been (or kerry for that matter). for once he has said why he has attacked us. bush has yet to give the 'terrorists' that honor. instead, he paints them as irrational hate mongers who attack freedom loving people out of jealousy or just pure hate. its ridiculous and its an embarrasment. i'm not endorsing what bin laden has done, but i am saying that he has a valid viewpoint. these small countries who feel they have been attacked and exploited by the huge american military have no ability to defend themselves on the battlefields. 'terror' is the only way they feel they can get their message across. maybe lobbying the politicians in washington would be a better way to spend their resources, but thats besides the point. he's saying that the terrorist attacks were retaliations to american aggression, and that if we stop attacking them, they will stop attacking us. i absolutely do believe that, and i have believed it for some time. i admire bin laden's straight honesty with the american people, and his effort to remain non-partisan, since any endorsement of either candidate could result in them losing.

i'm not proposing any solutions to the problems in the middle east, i'm just saying that bin laden is a legitimate enemy, and does not lack honor.

on a side note, i am voting for kerry, but his response to this video did not please me.
Bin Laden reminds me a lot of Clinton...a great orator who can make you sympathize with him no matter how irrational his viewpoint.

His "honesty"? He's being "non-partisan"? This man has been responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans. The fact that you sympathize with him or at least accept his viewpoint amazes me, and it doesn't surprise me one bit that you're a Kerry supporter. What's the next step, grant Bin Laden amnesty because it was our fault that he knocked down the twin towers?

He doesn't have a valid viewpoint, he doesn't have shit. He has no excuses for killing innocent civilians. **** him and **** his organization, clearly he is afraid and running for his life and is willing to say anything to loosen the noose around his neck. I want him dead, and I want anyone that plots against our country alongside him.

I personally think your opinion is extreme, if not insane. When I first read his speech I was somewhat humbled and began to sympathize with him...the man has definite power with his words. He is extremely smart, noone will deny that. But the more I thought about it the more I realized it was all bullshit...don't you remember his speeches about how America was the Great Satan and how Islam would take over the world and how all Americans would die? Now he's trying to actually get the American public on his side.

Go read some of his past rantings and ramblings...the man has done a complete 180, and he's obviously in fear for his life and the life of his terrorist organization. Bush is doing his job damn well, and obviously the effects of our brave men and women in uniform are being seen. When I first heard he had a new speech I was so scared it was going to be full of threats and the same sort of hatred he's been preaching for the past 20 years...instead I read an essay written from the point of view of a weakened man who had no idea that he would face the teeth of America when he decided to plot the deaths of tens of thousands of our civilians.
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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightshade
You have the debate skills of a three year old.

That is not what voting for Kerry means...but I suppose it was only a matter of time before some idiot dropped it to that level and it appears as though you and Blackmagic have hit that low mark for us.

Congratulations
Sorry, he definetly has a point. Kerry supporters and Bin Laden have one thing in common: they both hate Bush and want him out of office. Take it for what it's worth.

And the fool who threw in 'Kerry '04' has better debating skills?
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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 98CoupeV6
Sorry, he definetly has a point. Kerry supporters and Bin Laden have one thing in common: they both hate Bush and want him out of office. Take it for what it's worth.

And the fool who threw in 'Kerry '04' has better debating skills?
No I just didn't see that post in skimming through.

Yeah so some assclown who neither lives in this country nor has any say in how our political game works is supposed to stop me from participating in our nations two party biased system? This would mean there is only one party and therefore where is the choice in this matter?

No his point is moot really because Bin Ladens words only hold weight if you continue to allow them to.
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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by cobbcustomz
It definately shows that BinLaden is fearing Bush. He wouldnt be bashing him repeatedly if he didnt want Bush out of Power.

Seems to me like BinLaden is working for the Kerry Campaign


This video has made Terrorism the #1 concern to voters and all polls show bush with massive leads over kerry in all aspects of Terrorism. THis is quite possibly the straw that broke the Kerry campaigns back
I agree that Bush has Kerry beat when it comes to defeating terrorists and that if people have terrorism fresh on their mind when they go vote, those that are on the line might just vote Bush. Someone a long time ago predicted that Bush would catch Bin Laden right before the election, but since he didn't I guess striking fear of terrorism into the voters might be the next best thing.
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