Good vs Bad. my first political thread in a while
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Originally Posted by redgoober4life
I know. Is it short for anything?
Jebbeth? Jebbasiah? Jebus? Jebule? Gosh what cruel parents. It's like naming your "Kentucky"
Jebbeth? Jebbasiah? Jebus? Jebule? Gosh what cruel parents. It's like naming your "Kentucky"
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Originally Posted by MrFatbooty
Serbia was nothing like Iraq was. In Serbia we acted along with the rest of the world and ousted a dictator who was essentially universally condemned. In Iraq we acted unilaterally and got pledges of support after doing so, and our government justified the war to the public through obfuscation and misdirection.
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From: Detroit, MI
And yet I wonder why Iraq is the target when there is so much genocide in the world.
Are we going to go to war all over the place. Surely if you're going to justify the reason of the war being genocide, then what makes the other dying people any different?
Are we going to go to war all over the place. Surely if you're going to justify the reason of the war being genocide, then what makes the other dying people any different?
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From: Madison, WI
Originally Posted by ManInCamo
Actually.... UN didn't do anything, and still tolerates a LOT of genocide aroudn the world.. NATO - US heading the way, said hey lets go.
In Sebia we had some kind of treaty organization--NATO--involved. In Iraq we do not.
Serbia was a much smaller scale operation than Iraq. Serbia was a much more easily achievable goal. Serbia did not turn into a quagmire, and is instead now a relatively stable country.
There's absolutely no comparison.
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From: Ossining, New York
Originally Posted by MrFatbooty
This is nothing more than a partisan rallying call written by someone who is comparing apples to oranges in order to make some kind of overall point that Bush is better than Clinton was. Aside from the pointlessness of comparing one current candidate to one former office holder, I will address a couple of the points.
Serbia was nothing like Iraq was. In Serbia we acted along with the rest of the world and ousted a dictator who was essentially universally condemned. In Iraq we acted unilaterally and got pledges of support after doing so, and our government justified the war to the public through obfuscation and misdirection.
Clinton's perjury and subsequent impeachment trial is its own thing and in no way parallels the "Mission Accomplished" snafu. But okay, the writer of this spam wants to make the latter seem less bad by comparing it to the (totally unrelated) former.
The stock market crashed in 2000 for a number of reasons, mainly the collapse of the dot-com bubble. Economic events aren't always tied to government. Republicans, what with all of their harping about government being too big, should be all too aware of that.
Serbia was nothing like Iraq was. In Serbia we acted along with the rest of the world and ousted a dictator who was essentially universally condemned. In Iraq we acted unilaterally and got pledges of support after doing so, and our government justified the war to the public through obfuscation and misdirection.
Clinton's perjury and subsequent impeachment trial is its own thing and in no way parallels the "Mission Accomplished" snafu. But okay, the writer of this spam wants to make the latter seem less bad by comparing it to the (totally unrelated) former.
The stock market crashed in 2000 for a number of reasons, mainly the collapse of the dot-com bubble. Economic events aren't always tied to government. Republicans, what with all of their harping about government being too big, should be all too aware of that.
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From: Ossining, New York
Originally Posted by RB
Ironic how the original post claims Kerry never based his tax cut scenario off of facts, and yet the entire first 3/4ths of the post is...opinions.
Go figure.
Go figure.
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Originally Posted by BonzoAPD
But the bad economy is tied to Bush as you have said time and time again huh
I do not believe in cutting taxes while raising spending. I do not believe in passing a Medicare bill which gives people a "discount" on drugs while raising their premiums and deductibles but makes the government spend more money to pay for those drugs because the premium and deductible increases are used to to give payouts to private health plans that only 1/10 of Medicare members are enrolled in. I do not believe in passing an bill which promises to pay for yet more needless standardized tests in K-12 schools and then sticks the local school districts with the bill. I do not believe in decreasing federal funding for public higher education institutions and expecting them to make up the difference through tuition hikes and alumni donations.
The list goes on.
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I do not agree with asking for world permission to protect my own country. Nor do I agree with asking for world acceptance after I do it.
That's really what my #1 priority is, the rest is all of lesser importance to me.
That's really what my #1 priority is, the rest is all of lesser importance to me.
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Originally Posted by antarius
I do not agree with asking for world permission to protect my own country. Nor do I agree with asking for world acceptance after I do it.
When has any president, regardless of party, asked for permission from another country to go to war? There's a big difference between getting real allies on board, and "asking permission." Real allies add legitimacy to our position. Real allies help foot the bill in both troops and money.
What I want is for a president to only use war to defend the country as a last resort, and that's not what happened at all with Iraq.
