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Originally Posted by tark_o
I dont think right and left is so complicated to explain... Just tell the alien that its on either side of an vertical axis (real or imaginary)...
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Originally Posted by 18secFerio
the worst is when you look at situations, and they kinda form this kinda abstract pattern in your head, and you can't explain it to anyone 
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Originally Posted by benjamin
Okay, but "right" and "left" arbitrarily describe a direction relative to the axis. How do you tell the alien which is which?
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benjamin... very good correlation. I really dont' think vocabulary is the problem; my vocabulary in english is better than most. I think is just a matter of concepts for which no word has yet been devised...
obviously you can beat around the bush and come up with loose associations and unrooted metaphors, but the problem eventually arises: there are thoughts that cannot be articulated in language. You think in language. There are inaccessible thoughts that can only be found via an expansion in language or a breakthrough in articulation... neither of which am I more than modestly capable of. therefore, my thought is limited by language. I don't know that everyone thinks in language, but I sure as hell do.
obviously you can beat around the bush and come up with loose associations and unrooted metaphors, but the problem eventually arises: there are thoughts that cannot be articulated in language. You think in language. There are inaccessible thoughts that can only be found via an expansion in language or a breakthrough in articulation... neither of which am I more than modestly capable of. therefore, my thought is limited by language. I don't know that everyone thinks in language, but I sure as hell do.
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Originally Posted by tark_o
by giving coordonates, (1,1) is right while (-1,1) is left....as you said the aliens in questions would understand that...
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Originally Posted by benjamin
I've obviously repeated the problem incorrectly. It is supposed to be intractable to make a point about arbitrary names for variables in programs, which is why it came out of a comp sci class and and not a philosophy class.
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Originally Posted by white_n_slow
I think in words, but there are obviously concepts that defy articulation (i.e. emotions, etc), so i'm incapable of thinking about a potentially large pool of concepts because I cannot articulate them. I can have feelings about something I can't describe, but I'm not sure I can actually have rational thought about them.
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give me a sec. i have to think about this in korean then translate it back to english.
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