Not in New York State. I don't know about other states.

Also, it is very unlikely that you'll get a loan from the dealer at the buy rate. If you're very good you may get within a half a point. And, by the way, when you're grinding the financing guy for a lower interest rate, do the math and figure out just how much money you'll save. Don't make an enemy out of the dealership to get an extra two-tenths of a percent off the rate. They'll remember you if you go back to buy another car.

 

I guess I should have phrased that better: you are always entitled to know the buy rate.

 

or if you're buying a newly released model in high demand:

simply walk up to any salesman
say "i want that"
pay msrp
then leave

:happysad: :uhhok:

 

I have heard that fightingchance.com has a good guide and price lists. I guess quite a few people have used it with great sucess. I believe that it teaches you how to talk to the internet fleet managers to recieve the best bargains possible, but I guess it's worth looking at anyways.

 

lol, just buy one* thats already broken in.

 

:rofl:!!!!!!

 

Again, not in New York State. The word "entitled" usually suggests "legally entitled," and it just isn't always the case.

 

If you paid straight cash right there how much lower could you get than the invoice?

 

Usually it doesn't matter. As long as sales and finance are two separate departments, sales doesn't care if you're financing or not.

 

Hey thanks MrFatBooty...i actually was gonna PM this question to you since I knew you worked at a dealer....but I was sure others would like to chime in too.

Also, I AM in SoCal right now, Redlands to be exact....but I am moving home next month to Ontario Canada, with 13.5 cash in hand from the insurance covering my acura that was thefted by filthy theives