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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by qtiger
Personally, I think most American Christians seem to take the Bible out of context. The ones who really have it right bomb abortion clinics. Oh, and lets not forget lynching gays.

Every religion has its extremists.
I agree that religions have extremists. But to openly state that the only people that have the Bible right bomb abortion clinics and lynch gays is purely false. The Bible does not condone killing in any manner.
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Originally Posted by DVPGSR
Almost every Arab/Muslim country oppresses their people...or atleast there is no democracies. The only democracy in the middle east is Israel...which they are hell bent on destroying even if it means they destroy themselves.
Oh, and African nations are just so much better when it comes to democracy and oppression.


But we don't have a problem with African nations. They happily supply us with oil, diamonds, and uranium without protest, even while their governments are committing mass genocide.
Old Apr 8, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DVPGSR
The Bible does not condone killing in any manner.
Read the Old Testament lately?
Old Apr 8, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by qtiger
Oh, and African nations are just so much better when it comes to democracy and oppression.


But we don't have a problem with African nations. They happily supply us with oil, diamonds, and uranium without protest, even while their governments are committing mass genocide.
You have a very valid point. However I have not seen many African terrorists blowing up US assets or killing innocent US civilians.
Old Apr 8, 2004 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by qtiger
Read the Old Testament lately?
Honestly it has been awhile apart from the Old Testament readings in Church. If you wish to refresh my memory feel free.
Old Apr 8, 2004 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DVPGSR
I agree that religions have extremists. But to openly state that the only people that have the Bible right bomb abortion clinics and lynch gays is purely false. The Bible does not condone killing in any manner.
Leviticus i think it is, speaks of stoning sexual miscreants to death. i hate to say it, but qtiger actually has a point.. call your priest, hell has frozen over
Old Apr 8, 2004 | 07:23 PM
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Leviticus i think it is, speaks of stoning sexual miscreants to death. i hate to say it, but qtiger actually has a point.. call your priest, hell has frozen over
Well than I stand corrected. But I do wish to point out that Christianity sprung from the teachings of Christ which does not condone killing.

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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DVPGSR
You have a very valid point. However I have not seen many African terrorists blowing up US assets or killing innocent US civilians.
There's too much internal conflict in Africa to pose a serious threat, IMHO. They do not have Islam as an exteme binding force, as it is in the middle east. Just domestic terror and rebellions vs. international terror.

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Well than I stand corrected. But I do wish to point out that Christianity sprung from the teachings of Christ which does not condone killing.

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Precisely. Christianity has the Old Testament, which is pretty much fire, brimstone, and Jewish law, and is usually glossed over aside from Genesis, Noah, etc.

IIRC Deuteronomy has some particularly interesting bits of law and punishment. Been a while since I read the Bible in its entirety.


Similarly, the Koran has Islamic law in it, which if taken to extremes can lead to some rather dangerous conclusions. Islamic extremists like to forget that Christians and Jews are "people of the book"
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These wackos believe in hate and murder under the Koran, and the only thing that can change that is having them turn to the one true God, Jesus Christ
You are an idiot. Don't say anything unless you know what you're talking about. The Korran does not teach hate and murder, Islam is actually a very peaceful religion...but to a point. It teaches to defend your home and family with any means necessary. Makes sense to me. :dunno:

Originally Posted by DVPGSR
What I find amazing is that the majority of the Arab/Muslim countries do not deal in diplomacy like the rest of the world has learned. Unlike China that figured out they had to join the world community and play by the world community rules they insist on trying to get the world to change to their way. Which if you ask me is stuck in their own "dark ages". Almost every Arab/Muslim country oppresses their people...or atleast there is no democracies. The only democracy in the middle east is Israel...which they are hell bent on destroying even if it means they destroy themselves.
Muslim countries don't have democracy because Islam isn't just a religion, it's a way of life. They believe that every law they ever need is already given to them by Allah, and He is their only ruler.
And the reason they're all being oppressed now is because they're never allowed to establish their own Islamic state. They're alway being attacked from the capitalist countries, and the governments they have in place are put in place and funded by the US.



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