Help Me Pick New Tires
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Ah, the old "I have em so they're the best" line of reasoning.
I present for your viewing pleasure, information which hopefully is slightly more objective, from the Tirerack test of the tires which you have recommended.
"During the road ride portion of the evaluation, the HP4 716 was praised for its smooth, quiet ride. Road handling, especially around the faster, sweeping curves and on-ramps was not quite as crisp or connected as the other tires in this test.
Dry track handling was also found to be somewhat softer than the Potenza RE92 and Goodyear Eagle RS-A, and more like other tires in the Grand Touring All-Season category. Our team reported feeling the tire trying to grip the track surface, but it was hard to maximize handling at the limit because of the softer steering response.
Wet track performance was found to be similar to what was found in the dry. Overall handling and steering response was a bit soft compared to the Potenza RE92 and Goodyear Eagle RS-A. The level of grip during steady state cornering on the skidpad and under braking did provide some additional confidence, however, allowing the HP4 716 to post the second best average overall lap time."
The RE92 was stock on the 5th gen Prelude and is stock on the WRX. Everyone hates those tires. But Tirerack says they're grippier than these Kumhos.
I present for your viewing pleasure, information which hopefully is slightly more objective, from the Tirerack test of the tires which you have recommended.
"During the road ride portion of the evaluation, the HP4 716 was praised for its smooth, quiet ride. Road handling, especially around the faster, sweeping curves and on-ramps was not quite as crisp or connected as the other tires in this test.
Dry track handling was also found to be somewhat softer than the Potenza RE92 and Goodyear Eagle RS-A, and more like other tires in the Grand Touring All-Season category. Our team reported feeling the tire trying to grip the track surface, but it was hard to maximize handling at the limit because of the softer steering response.
Wet track performance was found to be similar to what was found in the dry. Overall handling and steering response was a bit soft compared to the Potenza RE92 and Goodyear Eagle RS-A. The level of grip during steady state cornering on the skidpad and under braking did provide some additional confidence, however, allowing the HP4 716 to post the second best average overall lap time."
The RE92 was stock on the 5th gen Prelude and is stock on the WRX. Everyone hates those tires. But Tirerack says they're grippier than these Kumhos.
Last edited by MrFatbooty; Mar 21, 2004 at 09:40 AM.
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From: SLC, Ut
Originally Posted by SLC Punk
If you are looking for an all season tire check for the Yokohama Avid H4's
I have those on my Celi and I had them on the ex's old 00 Si. Good for the snow and rain we get in Utah!
I have those on my Celi and I had them on the ex's old 00 Si. Good for the snow and rain we get in Utah!
I will for sure check these out. :thumbup:
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Originally Posted by MrFatbooty
Dunlop SP Sport 5000 205/50-15 are $420 for a set of four plus shipping. I would highly recommend these over the options you have posted.
Unless you need snow traction, you might as well get a summer tire. Pretty much all of them are designed to go through both dry and rainy conditions (with the exception of a select few dry-oriented models). The only thing that makes a tire "all season" is that it has a mud & snow rating.
Unless you need snow traction, you might as well get a summer tire. Pretty much all of them are designed to go through both dry and rainy conditions (with the exception of a select few dry-oriented models). The only thing that makes a tire "all season" is that it has a mud & snow rating.
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I have the Dunlop SP5000s on my Matrix 2wd. They are in my opinion the best option for all season performance. Good grip in any condition I have met; including 4" deep snow with no chains!
Comparing them to ES100s, SP9000s, Toyo T1 Plus, and Azenis I have had on my integra; I would choose the SP5000s any day for my winter/all season tire.
Comparing them to ES100s, SP9000s, Toyo T1 Plus, and Azenis I have had on my integra; I would choose the SP5000s any day for my winter/all season tire.
