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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by antarius
I think I'm adminttingly a little paranoid about the motives of this board and the majority of the internet.

It seems to be primarily democrat/liberal, so I'm used to the attacks coming in -- it's rare I see someone somewhat centered saying "I agree with part, but not all".

My bad.
i guess i could have said that lol
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 04:40 PM
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:eek3: a conservative! :usa:
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by NorCal DC4
Supply-side economic theory can't work when companies take the money and run. And that's exactly what's happening. It's the 1970's all over again. Corporations are simply taking the money and continuing to outsource their jobs overseas. Dell, State-Farm, Nike, Addidas, GM, Ford, General Mills, etc, etc. All are finding their labour elsewhere. And we are suffering as a result of this administration's failure to act.
who is suffering? i couldn't be happier right now. the "unemployment rate" didn't hinder my recent job hunt at all. supply side economics seems to be working just fine thanks.
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by clickwir
You can't please everyone all the time, if you have a problem with a choice... vote. That's it. That's what it's there for, making a website or bashing whoever the president is, is just stupid.
Exactly, you can have an opinion but don't express it. Ever. Especially not in an artistic way.



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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NorCal DC4
Certainly, no president this side of FDR has been "perfect." Hell..Blessed with hindsight, I think Clinton's tightening of the military and intelligence budget, combined with poor responses to the Somalian Crisis and the attack on the USS Cole, set us up- in part- for an attack like 9.11. And I agree, we were blindsided by 9.11.01. It radically changed everything.

But in my heart, I cannot see how the invasion of Iraq could have come at a worse time. We still have men in Afghanistan, and that problem is far from resolved.

The billions spent in removing Hussein could have been fed into MediCare, Social Security investment funds, education, etc.

I'm not going to blame Bush for the job losses, what I chastize his administration for is failure to act.... a pandemic failure to act on virtually all elements of the domestic agenda.

He has neglected serious problems at home that IMHO, were much more pressing than the removal of Hussein (as I mentioned in discussions prior to the Invasion).

Supply-side economic theory can't work when companies take the money and run. And that's exactly what's happening. It's the 1970's all over again. Corporations are simply taking the money and continuing to outsource their jobs overseas. Dell, State-Farm, Nike, Addidas, GM, Ford, General Mills, etc, etc. All are finding their labour elsewhere. And we are suffering as a result of this administration's failure to act.
I can agree with you on one point in this statement, straight up. I can't see the timing of the Iraq war being good either. Period. If he was a threat or wasn't a threat, I don't see it as a good time either and that's one of the reasons I'm torn on the issue. Though, as of now; I still have faith and I'll wait it out to see the final steps follow through before I make my final decision. But yes, terrible timing.

Now, Bush did do some things to help the economy. He could have seen the deficit rising and freaked out, not lowered taxes or perhaps raised taxes; and we'd be much better off financially as a country. But had he done that, we'd all be complaining about how he didn't keep his word on taxes. Instead, he lowered taxes and interest rates which prompted more spending and more money being shoveled through our economy, raising the confidence of the consumer and that moves to the employers. Which gives us jobs and keeps them here.

On the oversea's thing, they've stated that between 1992 and 2002 approximately 500,000 US Jobs have been sent oversea's. Let's assume (I'll use this as an example, that I heard somewhere), that in the last year of 2003 another 500,000 jobs went oversea's. That's still only a 0.17% of total US Jobs being sent oversea's, and that's DOUBLE what the actual number is. That's a pretty low number.

I agree, one job - let alone 500,000 jobs is too many to go oversea's but that's not something you can just stop because this is a open market. You can stifle it, but you can't stop it. I do agree, he could do some more things to stop it further, because it has increased in the past say 2 years then in the past 10; but it's not a big enough problem JUST yet for me to yap down his throat about. So long as we keep jobs increasing here, to offset the amount leaving this country, all will be well; and that's what appears to be happening.

Time will tell...
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RB26DETT
:eek3: a conservative! :usa:
More center of the road, but yeah - I tend to lean conservative rather than liberal.

:usa: :usa:
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 07:13 PM
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kerry, i guess
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