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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:41 AM
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You can cheer that your friend is alive.. but killing someone is nothing to be happy about. After all... we are what they are to us. The enemy.
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:45 AM
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31. MAINTAINING PEACE

Weapons of war are instruments of fear,
and are abhorred by those who follow the Tao.
The leader who follows the natural way
does not abide them.

The warrior king leans to his right,
from whence there comes his generals' advice,
but the peaceful king looks to his left,
where sits his counsellor of peace.
When he looks to his left, it is a time of peace,
and when to the right, a time for sorrow.

Weapons of war are instruments of fear,
and are not favoured by the wise,
who use them only when there is no choice,
for peace and stillness are dear to their hearts,
and victory causes them no rejoicing.

To rejoice in victory is to delight in killing;
to delight in killing is to have no self-being.

The conduct of war is that of a funeral;
when people are killed, it is a time of mourning.
This is why even victorious battle
should be observed without rejoicing.
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:48 AM
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^ 'nuff said.
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by Epoch
31. MAINTAINING PEACE

Weapons of war are instruments of fear,
and are abhorred by those who follow the Tao.
The leader who follows the natural way
does not abide them.

The warrior king leans to his right,
from whence there comes his generals' advice,
but the peaceful king looks to his left,
where sits his counsellor of peace.
When he looks to his left, it is a time of peace,
and when to the right, a time for sorrow.

Weapons of war are instruments of fear,
and are not favoured by the wise,
who use them only when there is no choice,
for peace and stillness are dear to their hearts,
and victory causes them no rejoicing.

To rejoice in victory is to delight in killing;
to delight in killing is to have no self-being.

The conduct of war is that of a funeral;
when people are killed, it is a time of mourning.
This is why even victorious battle
should be observed without rejoicing.
well thats your opinion
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by More&Faster
well thats your opinion
Tao Te Ching y0


So, I must ask, are you saying this is inaccurate? I mean, honestly, if you think that there is a flaw from that poem, I'm curious to hear what your point of view is?
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by EriksShadow
You can cheer that your friend is alive.. but killing someone is nothing to be happy about. After all... we are what they are to us. The enemy.
ill cheer that my friend is alive and that i killed the "enemy". If we are to them what they are to us, then the same exact thing would be happening to us in that video. The thought of dying by the enemy makes me sad and upset, the thought of killing the enemy and not having to worry about those enemies anymore, makes me happy. It makes me happy to be alive and makes me happy that i saved a fellow americans life...... which leads back to being happy you killed THEM "the enemy"

killing someone MIGHT not be anything to be happy about in some situations. i for one would love to kill certain people.
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 02:29 PM
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I've seen the second one and think its pretty funny.

The first one is an amzing example of weaponry but its sad the stance some of you are taking about it by cheering it on or laughing at it.

Taking a human life really isn't something I find to be a laughing matter and I am sure if the roles were reversed and that was an Iraqi helicopter shooting US soldiers there would be a completely different tone in this thread.
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 02:35 PM
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What bothers me... is the calmness in the soilder's voice... it's chillingly unatural.
How can you be so .... unphased by that? :ugh:
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by EriksShadow
What bothers me... is the calmness in the soilder's voice... it's chillingly unatural.
How can you be so .... unphased by that? :ugh:
That, and combined with the perspective, makes it almost feel like a video game to me :ugh:
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 02:40 PM
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:nods:

I'm so glad I changed my mind about joining a military branch.
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