God never destroyed hell..He created it...And its a place where those who reject God go. Its what the bible says, the bible is God's word. God loves everyone, but he hates sin, and if you are unwilling to give up your sin and accept Christ, he cannot allow you into heaven. Heaven is perfect, a place sin has never touched...Thats all clearly stated in the bible...Its not just my "belief" Its what the bible says, read it for yourself...its what is says....

 

Hmmm.

Well, I have read the Gospels and the New Testament. In Greek.

Christ did destroy Hell, in my New Testament.

:shrug:

 

no, the bible is a compilation of correspondence and stories, written and compiled by MAN. the original text is all but long forgotten and those translations into english that the populous is more familiar with were done with other motivation than "spreading the holy word".

 

God never detroyed hell, now in Revelation God says he WILL destroy hell and cast everyone who's in hell into the Lake of fire, which is far worse....I donno what bible you read...but it doesnt sound the the Gospel of Christ....And he will also establish a new heaven and new earth....

 

It was written by man, but inspired by God. God promised that his word would endure forever....Notice if you read the bible, there is not ONE SINGLE ERROR IN ANY OF IT. Every scientific fact people used to disbelieve in the bible....has been proven true....INFACT if people had read the bible back when they thought the world was flat, they would have read how God said the earth was a sphere.

 

It is not forgotten, in my church we frequesntly go back to the Greek, and hebrew versions for reference and clearity on different verses that many churchs try to pervert....

 

you forget the gospels that were left out of the bible because they were conflicting. have you ever read the gospel of thomas? it puts a interesting spin on christ's divinity, or lack there of. or the recently uncovered gospel of mary magdeline?

jesus wan't called the king of kings because he was the son of god. he was called so because he was born of the house of david and later took a wife, mary magdeline, who was of the house of solomon. when they were married, jesus became the king of kings, king of all the jews because the houses of solomon and david were essentially combined. it was an unprecedented political move of the time.

 

Everybody says that, but in my experience they don't know what they're doing. Forgive me for being frank.

How many years has your minister studied Greek? And does he know enough Greek and Greeks that he would understand the nuances?

For example, it is entirely possible to translate the beginning of the Gospels very differently. In Greek, the book begins,

We know that in English you like to say,

However, if you were of an evil mind, it's possible to translate the very same Greek words entirely differently.

If you were evil, you could translate it that way. If you have an agenda in mind, the Gospels can be made to say a lot that they don't really say.

 

I dont know of what you speak, but the KJV of the bible is complete. Christ never took a wife. You are trying to pervert who Christ was, and its stupid. Jesus Christ is the son of God. He was sent to earth to die for all mankind. He never once sinned, and this day sits at the right hand of God. Bringing up things like "The Gospel of Mary Magdelin" is like trying to say the book of mormon belongs in the bible. I assure you sir, you are wrong. Christ is who he said he was. THE SON OF GOD and worthy of all praise and glory. You can reject that, and in eternity you'll pay for it....

I'm not replying to this thread anymore, because you all are bringing up false books and trying to claim this that are totally bogus. I go by what the bible says. God promised that his word would endure forever and it has. The bible is as God wanted it to be, it is complete, and adding or taking away from it is against God(Read the bible if you dont believe that.)

 

In asking about those works, you also define why they are not gospels.

Recently discovered = recently written, relatively.

You can't just throw things out there for the sake of sensationalism, without knowing anything about Christianity or the people who were involved in the gospels.

Even the vaunted Dead Sea Scrolls are suspect. People enjoy very much pointing out the little differences between the scrolls and other early works; however, in many cases the majority of ancient works contradict the scrolls.

Have you ever stopped to wonder why the Dead Sea Scrolls were found where they were? Those caves were the hideouts of criminals and weird religious cults. There was a reason why they were not a part of the normal societies of the region, whether Hellenic, Roman or Jewish.

Who knows what weird ideas developed, and what mistakes were made in transcribing documents, in those dark days in the caves, secluded and away from the students of Christ's apostles?

As for your attack on Christ's dual nature and divinity, it is patently illogical and contradicted in many works...assuming you accept the possibility that a Christ can exist at all.

In order to do what Christ did, he had to sin and die. He therefore had to be fully Man.

In order to do what Christ did, face Hell on our behalf, he also had to be fully God.

Heresies involving the dual nature of Christ were among the very first things that the apostles themselves, and the early fathers had to deal with. We dealt with it and put it out of the way within the first couple of hundred years of the faith's existence, and it was later affirmed by the councils called by Constantine I (Ever August).