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Old Dec 25, 2003 | 02:27 PM
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LOTR has many Christian themes even though it doesn't parallel the Bible. The story itself is centered around a struggle between the forces of good and evil, with human beings portrayed as a morally weak and lethargic group. In the end, the forces of good are saved from total destruction by the act of a single person. Frodo is most definitely a Christ figure: he is chosen for the task of disposing of the ring, most people doubted his ability to do it, and he sacrifices a lot to complete his mission. Aragorn is probably like one of the Apostles, like John, because he knows he can't be or do what Frodo does, but is forever loyal to Frodo and the cause.
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Old Dec 25, 2003 | 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by Kestrel
LOTR has many Christian themes even though it doesn't parallel the Bible. The story itself is centered around a struggle between the forces of good and evil, with human beings portrayed as a morally weak and lethargic group. In the end, the forces of good are saved from total destruction by the act of a single person. Frodo is most definitely a Christ figure: he is chosen for the task of disposing of the ring, most people doubted his ability to do it, and he sacrifices a lot to complete his mission. Aragorn is probably like one of the Apostles, like John, because he knows he can't be or do what Frodo does, but is forever loyal to Frodo and the cause.

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I believe LOTRs follows this theory more than any allegory which can be drawn between it and the bible.
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Old Dec 25, 2003 | 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by Epoch
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I believe LOTRs follows this theory more than any allegory which can be drawn between it and the bible.
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Old Dec 25, 2003 | 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by Epoch
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I believe LOTRs follows this theory more than any allegory which can be drawn between it and the bible.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this Joseph Campbell's description of hero's journey and how it leads to more introspection and a spiritual rebirth of the hero?

Frodo I think fits more of the Christ figure. One is that he's not human, and it's pretty much explicity stated that no human could ever do what Frodo did. He does not choose to go on this journey or be a hero...it's thrust upon him, just as Christ's task was thrust upon him. I think the biggest reason Frodo doesn't fit campbell's hero description is because Frodo never really comes back. He gives up his happy life for the betterment of those around him and leaves forever, just like Christ did. Campbell pretty much requires that the hero goes into the abyss and comes back as a changed person. I would say Sam might be a hero, and Aragorn too, but Frodo I don't think is.
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 10:12 AM
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ive never read tt or rotk
theres another series that i like thats similar:
hero must travel to enemies lands to conquer evil
friends must create a diversion so hero will have better chances of success

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0345...01#reader-page
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 10:13 AM
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LOTR #3 :thumbup:


and he did look a bit like the stereotypical idea of christ :happysad:
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by Evilkittie
LOTR #3 :thumbup:


and he did look a bit like the stereotypical idea of christ :happysad:

looks maybe but he can't represent christ because he has taken up arms.

IMHO it's story of forgotten hero and how a hero is made. whatever similarity to the bible I believe it to be unintentional.
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by DakarM
looks maybe but he can't represent christ because he has taken up arms.

IMHO it's story of forgotten hero and how a hero is made. whatever similarity to the bible I believe it to be unintentional.
definately, because they didn't mention "god" or "christ" in the entire movie(s).

#3 was wild though :eek3: big spider owns me :nervous:
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by Evilkittie
definately, because they didn't mention "god" or "christ" in the entire movie(s).

#3 was wild though :eek3: big spider owns me :nervous:
big spiders huh? so they went back to that forest... the one that bilbo went to in the Hobbits :chuckles: :rick:
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