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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by DakarM
that one way to put it or you can say at 150mph one car is generated lift and the other one is generating down force.

which car do you want to be in at 150mph given that info


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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 09:26 PM
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Porsches with the huge ass rear spoilers put down a much higher downforce that the Ferraris. What is baffling me is that the Ferrari numbers are so low, at Indy none of the Modenas had spoilers but all the 911 cars had them. Makes me think that Ferrari did a better design with the weight ratio than Porsche.

Edit it makes sense, stock 911s tend to be a little bit like airplanes at high speeds and want to lift off. Maybe thats why the modified 911s used at the Porsche cup needed the huge ass spoilers. Also explains why Porsche is now getting spoilers on most of their street cars.
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by axemansean
Porsches with the huge ass rear spoilers put down a much higher downforce that the Ferraris. What is baffling me is that the Ferrari numbers are so low, at Indy none of the Modenas had spoilers but all the 911 cars had them. Makes me think that Ferrari did a better design with the weight ratio than Porsche.

Edit it makes sense, stock 911s tend to be a little bit like airplanes at high speeds and want to lift off. Maybe thats why the modified 911s used at the Porsche cup needed the huge ass spoilers. Also explains why Porsche is now getting spoilers on most of their street cars.

:werd: the 360 also uses venturi tunnels on the bottom of the car to create suction, where as the 911s do not.
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by DakarM
:werd: the 360 also uses venturi tunnels on the bottom of the car to create suction, where as the 911s do not.
The ALMS prototypes despite having that much downforce tend to get airborne if they get the air taken off their nose. Thats why a lot of times if you see those cars racing very close to each other they'll peak out and get some air on their nose so they stay on the ground.
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by axemansean
The ALMS prototypes despite having that much downforce tend to get airborne if they get the air taken off their nose. Thats why a lot of times if you see those cars racing very close to each other they'll peak out and get some air on their nose so they stay on the ground.

I might be wrong but I believe those are required to have flat bottom no?

which means they need that air on the nose to stick to the ground.
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by DakarM
I might be wrong but I believe those are required to have flat bottom no?

which means they need that air on the nose to stick to the ground.
Yes sir they are called skid plates. Yep if you take the air off their nose they are going to take off.

Watch this video for an example...

http://www.gogoracing.com/videos/vset.cfm?VideoSetID=15
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 10:02 PM
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is that the mb clk gts or something that flys off to the side?
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 10:03 PM
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nope that was the porsche gt1? I think I don't remember... even though I have the model of it in a box :exnbp:
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 12:43 AM
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I was under the impression the 360 made something like 3000 lbs of downforce at 180 mph?
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 08:53 AM
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Originally posted by lttletimmy
I was under the impression the 360 made something like 3000 lbs of downforce at 180 mph?
You are thinking of either the Challenge cars or the ones used in the Le Man series.
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