i don't see how that's a matrix in the matrix.

 

see, the reason i thought the ending was lame, was because overall, there was no real resolution. the first movie was sweet, 'cause it posed this crazy idea that people were enslaved to machines, like they were all in some prison, and needed to be freed... that was an awsome concept, and why i loved the first one so much. but by the end of the trilogy, the people inside the matrix were no longer of key importance... shit, neo even saves the matrix at the end to save the people in zion... and this whole truce thing can't last long, because while temporarily at peace, humans are still at the mercy of the machines, and eventually they're going to want to revolt...

anyway, the whole truce thing just seemed like a happy little cop-out, so that everyone wins. the machines are still there, the matrix is fine, and the people in zion are too :dunno:

something i didn't understand though, is why when one agent smith died, they all died? and the whole thing about neo being jacked into the computer, so then when he became smith, the machines had control of an agent smith... what about all of the other people from the matrix that he converted to an agent smith... weren't they all already jacked into the computer directly? why couldn't the machines have done the same thing then?

something i just realized though, was earlier in the movie when he was saying that he 'couldn't see beyond a decision he couldn't understand'... i guess that decision was that he had to lose the fight against smith

 

i don't think the other people smith had taken over would have had the power to kill smith like neo did. the other people were just regular people. but since neo was so powerful (and the opposite of smith) the machines were able to do it through him.

 

but if it's this thing where you kill one smith, you kill all smiths, then why couldn't the machine just pull the plug on someone that smith converted?

 

the train station was a branch of the matrix where only the trainman knew the backdoor into. remember neo ran to the left and came out the right side? and the other programs were in the train station waiting for the trainman so they can be taken out of the "limbo" matrix.

 

it wasn't that they killed just any old smith by unplugging neo. all the smiths were connected. and the machines got to all of them through neo.


so? just looks like a side part of the matrix. like a backdoor, as you said. not that he had to unplug from one matrix to get to the other matrix to unplug again. remember that he wasn't plugged in the first place. hard to explain how i see it....but it's not a matrix in the matrix, it's part of it...or to the side of it.... or under it... whatever.

 

ya it is a side part. but it is a matrix cause they intentionally shoot scenes within the matrix with a green tone. real world is shot in blue and training simulations are shot in yellow. but the white tone usually symbolizes places only programs can go like the hallway with all the backdoors.

 

sure. matrix. yes. separate matrix inside the normal one? no.

 

in addition to my last post....i see it as that big building they went into in reloaded. that hallway with all the doors.... it's not a separate matrix inside the matrix.... more like something deeper in the code. like the backend. blah. i suck at explaining.

 

not really a matrix but just another "hallway" with a secured connection almost.

how did you like the movie?