I see your reasoning, and I'm actually lovin every minute. Your posts are what I've been waiting for on here.

I know what you mean, tho. I know my veiws and my zeal are very peculiar, and I know I'll be lucky if I even get to be in that situation that I gave last post, but still, we all strive for something.

I'm striving for world peace, or at least wanting to get the ball rolling. I figure if I can sway a few peoples veiws on here, why not start with my own family and work on up. Get the ball moving, and eventually nothing can stop it.

 

see edit ^^^

 

THIS. This is the nugget of goodness I'm talking about. You can be religious and buy it, or you can not be. Just as long as you buy it.

 

so perhaps starting with the assumption that we need to level with our flaws, maybe we can work our way with it until we reach a consisus that God exists?

god, I need to go to college already

 

Well maybe I'm just focusing on one part of the idea here. Maybe I'm not takig in the argument as a whole... But seems to me, there's the getting along part, and theres the religious part.

I know you're trying to make a religious statement with this thread... and you know I'm a spiritual person, but I don't think God has anything to do with world peace.

God should live inside whoever cares to host Him, he should guide, help and enlighten whoever cares to be guided, helped, or enlightened... But thats where he should stay... inside the individual. As already mentioned, I buy into chaos, more or less. I don't think God has any bearing on peoples attitudes... People create god within their own minds. And wether or not they see him, feel him, believe in him, or despise the very idea of him, they should still be able to strive for peace and understanding. I'm spiritual, but I'm far from religious. But I can appreciate a worthy cause, and I identify more with the average athiest than I do with my own catholic granny.

 

well, thats not really what I meant, but people create their concept of god. they are the ones with the real agency. god exists or doesn't exist externally, you see it, and its definitely way bigger than you. But the concept of god, the understanding of god, is personal.

 

good deal :thumbup:

time to rearrange the idea's.... :happysad:

 

What is your overarching thesis?
You seem to have alot of scattered thoughts.

 

me and my scatter brain h:

well....

The universe comprises mostly of:
- spirals/circles (basiclly spirals in the 2nd diminsion)
- repitition
- exponisation(?) (the wrong word, I know, but can't think of the right one. Best way to discribe it is the Half/half/half/half/half/ad infintium idea. Like looking in two mirrors facing each other and being between them. Another example, ants are like humans on a smaller scale. And you can tell little difference between a picture of a solar system and a picture of an atom)

humans are all different, indeed, but we all share one thing in common: Our minds.

we're all the gods of our own lives. Although we have control of our actions (to some degree. There's also our subconcious selves), we do not control all our circumstances (not 100%, anyways).

so if we all think alike, it must be feasable that on some level (be it higher than ours, since we can only precieve whats less than us) that we actually connect with each other. Kinda a giant metaphysical Circle. That circle is made of an infinate number of points (as geometry teaches us), and each of those individual points is us. The central point of the circle can be charactorized as reality, the central point we're all looking at. Even though reality is always changing, we all precieve it a different way. Therefor, reality is the constant, and we're the variable. In a similar token, a circle's main shape is equally distanced from the central point. Anotherwords, we're all equal. No one is perfect. Under that idea, we should accept the facts:
- no one is always right
- everyone is sometimes wrong
- we're all equal, rich and poor, black and white, male or female
- we all have good traits and bad traits
- we're all nessisary as a whole, no matter our social/class level
- we all hurt/will be hurt

the whole circle is god. All knowledge, all knowing. Basiclly, the next step up.

Good and bad are idea's based on how you effect other peoples lives. We all do good and bad (at least by definitional standards), but some good things can be interpited as bad, and vice versa. Ultimatly, we hurt ourselves regardless, so thats not taken too much into account (Like skipping a question on the SAT's doesn't hurt as bad as marking one incorrect). However, affecting people negatively is not a good thing. Idea's linked to Karma come into play here, since karma is very true.

Like love, a good book, a song, or even a poem, Life began somewhere, and will eventually come to an end. Given that idea, its feasable to say that since the world will come to a point before 'the end,' there must be certain events that lead the begining to the end. Maybe not as directly as implied, tho.

regardless, everything we're going through right now is no different than in the past. History repeats itself, but problems become more and more aware. Basiclly, the repition remains, but the situation gets more and more intense.

and if all that is the case, then everything we go through in life is nessisary. And predestined (even though we still have control, time is only relitive to reality. Its possible that we already know whats going to happen to us, but we don't know it.). God knows us, and knows what choices we will make when it comes down to it, so our free will is almost taken into account. Again, if God is beyond the concept of time, then he already knows when we'll fuck up, since it would have already happend.

One idea: People die, and its ment to happen, be it to teach someone a lesson, to push someone away from something, etc.

Throughout life, coincidence plays a major factor in the shaping of each of our personalities/lives. Everyday, coincidence directly and indirectly effects us, all the time.

for example:

you're at the gas station, and you see this really hot girl getting into her car. You look at each other and lock eyes and smile at each other, but you're feeling shy at the moment, so decide not to talk to her. As you're comming back out of the store, there she is, pulling out when -BAM! she gets t-boned by a semi and dies on the spot.

if you weren't such a pussy and actually went and talked with her, she wouldn't have been leaving the parking lot at the same time that semi would be heading down the road.

dark situation, I know, but it best illustrates the reality of our (well, mine in particular) lives. Choice, timing, things like that really add up. Idea's like fate come to mind.

But another idea about personalities is Astrology. Maybe its not the best as far as daily horiscopes go, but in my experience, astrology has been dead on the vast majority of the time.

All religions are pretty much right. They all pretty much teach the same ideas. The three abramatic religions (jews, christians, muslims) all worship the same god, weather they know it or not. Each religion basiclly fills more of the circle.

Everything we experience is a wave, ultimatly. Sound and light mainly come to mind, but impulses in general move in waves from the receptors to your brain. Waves (as in the sine and cosine waves) are just sideways representations of spirals (in the same respect that circles are sprials looking at them head on). In fact, a spiral is theta.

Life is a series of circles for each of us. We all start somewhere, and basiclly stay in the same spot until we learn. Granted things would change if you learn sooner than later, you still are stuck in the same situation, round and round and round, until you decide to move to the next circle, and round and round and round you go, ad infintium. Just imagine an infinate field of circles, which each represent a phase in life, and you get the idea of a rough concept of life.

Science explains religion. Why can't people put the Big Bang theory togeather with God saying "Let there be light!"? Why can't people put evolution togeather with the creation of man. When God created us in his image, his image was our minds. God is all good and all evil. The devil, while a symbol of evil, is on a lower level than god (actually, on the same level as jesus, muhammed, etc.). If you want to get technical, the devil was actually an angel, according to the bible.

while Religious texts are inacurate, their idea's are dead on. Metaphores, not direct transation.

again, scattered thoughts, but a little more coherent.

 

You seem to have some good ideas.
But some of your stuff is a little weird, lol.