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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 07:51 AM
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Are you serious? Chiefs are silently stacked. 5 pro bowlers...Jamaal Charles...stellar returning defense. Reid is a top notch coach, he just needed a change of scenery. I hope they don't waste the pick on a QB, the draft class is weeeeeak.

If they got Alex Smith or better, a good #2/3 WR to get double coverage off of Bowe, and a good MLB they'd be a force next year. And I think all of those things are easily attainable. KC is attractive right now for a QB with their depth and Reid's air it out style play.
Jamaal Charles will be under utilized in an Andy Reid offense. He is notoriously pass-heavy and his fantasy stock is going to take a dump. If KC doesn't have a decent QB and depth at WR, they will not succeed under Reid. I'd give it a few years, not an instant turn around.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 09:06 AM
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That entire organization is a mess. I'm not a hater, just calling it as it-is.

The Carson Palmer trade set you guys back quite a bit.




Kaepernick's throwing mechanics irk me. It's like he's winding up to throw the football. I've never seen a slower release.

I don't hate the guy, I just can't unsee his throwing motion.
Kaepernick has kind of a tebow release. And I hate how he does that spin move and runs backward to get out of pressure. That might have worked in college, but the guys in the nfl are too fast. When he gets sacked like that we lose 15 yards.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Zackk
Have you not watched a god damn Philip Rivers game? It makes me embarrassed his brother is an LSU qb.
Come to think of it, I haven't seen much of Rivers. o_O


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Kaepernick has kind of a tebow release.
Yeah, I can't place my finger on it. Maybe because he's so tall, the throwing motion looks goofy?

When I see other NFL QB's play, they keep the ball close to their chest. The distance from chest to throwing motion isn't very far, so it looks like a fast / compact release.

It looks like Kap keeps the ball close to his gut. Pulling the ball from gut to throwing motion might be the awkward mechanic.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 10:40 AM
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He also takes off with zero ball security...runs around holding it in one hand with his arm outstretched.
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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Zackk
Are you serious? Chiefs are silently stacked. 5 pro bowlers...Jamaal Charles...stellar returning defense. Reid is a top notch coach, he just needed a change of scenery. I hope they don't waste the pick on a QB, the draft class is weeeeeak.

If they got Alex Smith or better, a good #2/3 WR to get double coverage off of Bowe, and a good MLB they'd be a force next year. And I think all of those things are easily attainable. KC is attractive right now for a QB with their depth and Reid's air it out style play.
Yes I am serious!
WR don't just fall off of trees(not even # 2/3 WR's).
Matt Cassel is a mess.
Like some else mentioned above Jamal Charles role will be reduce in Andy Offense.
Andy Reid brings with him a lot of personal Baggage in his life IMO.
He needs to sit out a year or 2 and take it all in.

Took this from a article in the philly paper
No franchise could endure two seasons like Reid's 2012. Every incident, every misstep, every misevaluation, lay at the feet of Andy Reid.

A cataclysmically awful signing; the drug-related death of a nepotistic hire; the insistence by his agent that he could coach in Philadelphia forever; the firing of a loyal, if miscast, lieutenant, and the subsequent, disastrous ascension of an overmatched assistant; the late-game injury to the most valuable player on the team in an unwinnable game; the dismissal of an insubordinate defensive lineman, then his insubordinate position coach.

And, throughout, Reid's pernicious refusal, in defiance of his owner's dictate, to put a congenial face on the franchise he represented.

These things actually happened.

We checked our notes.

Maybe teams like the Cards did not.

To begin with, Reid signed off on the disastrous acquisition of left tackle Demetress Bell, brought aboard to replace injured Jason Peters, the team's best player. As vice president of football operations, Reid ultimately is on the hook for the signing. A former lineman and offensive-line coach, misevaluation of linemen long has been a shortcoming of Reid's.

During his autocratic reign, which began during the ill-fated 2001 draft, Reid has found gems in just two linemen: 2005 fourth-rounder Todd Herremans and second-year center Jason Kelce, lost in the second game this season.

It was offensive-line coach Juan Castillo who developed centers Hank Fraley and Jamaal Jackson, neither of whom was drafted. Peters already had been to a Pro Bowl when he arrived. Weight the acquisition and quick flame-out of eccentric guard Shaun Andrews as you will
Bell never earned a starting spot, though he filled in five times. He did not even take a snap in six games. Offensive line depth doomed 2012 before it started.

Deeper doom awaited.

What happened Aug. 5 might be the worst thing to happen in Philadelphia sports history.

Reid's oldest child, Garrett Reid, died of a heroin overdose in August at training camp. Garrett, 29, was in employ of the Eagles as a strength coach, despite no qualifications for the job besides bloodlines. He was on property the team leased, actively serving in his capacity as a coach. Steroids and syringes also were found in his room.
n 2007, Garrett went to jail on drug charges. Steroids were in the mix then, too. In 2009 he went back to jail for fighting at a halfway house.

No coach in the NFL has the sort of baggage Garrett Reid carried.

Still, he was hired; on the sideline and in the weight room wearing team gear every day.

The death of any sick, addicted young man is awful; the grief of burying a child, simply blinding.

But Reid put his team in the position to have to explain why a strength coach he had hired, whom many players called a close friend, brought heroin and steroids onto team property, and used, at least, one of the drugs (test results for the presence of testosterone in Garrett's body remain unreleased).

How do you explain this?

Maybe the Cardinals won't ask.

The rest of 2012 simply continued a descent past the bizarre, into the incredible.

Just 6 days after Garrett Reid's death, Andy Reid's agent, country singer look-alike Bob LaMonte, visited Eagles training camp.

There, LaMonte assured reporters that Lurie had told him "again and again" that Reid never would be fired as coach in Philadelphia. Lurie and Reid quickly decried LaMonte's assertion, which, at the time, reeked of opportunistic strong-arming, given the recentness of Garrett's death.

The season had not even started. Mercifully.

The Eagles' offense was terrible, especially at Arizona in Game 3, but the team still won three of its first four games - by a total of four points. The Birds blew leads in the two games preceding the bye week. Reid fired Castillo after that sixth game - Castillo, whom, in 2011, Reid moved heaven and earth to promote from offensive line coach to defensive coordinator.
To facilitate Castillo's hire, Reid coaxed Howard Mudd out of retirement to replace Castillo, a feat made easier since Reid already had Mudd's pal, defensive-line coach Jim Washburn, a hot commodity who preached a chancy "wide-nine" scheme.

The Eagles were 11-11 in Castillo's run as coordinator but had blown seven fourth-quarter leads. Usually, the offense played atrociously in those fourth quarters, too. Castillo's overall defense never was dynamic, but it had held opposing quarterbacks to a 69.4 passer rating, then second-best in the league.
Defensive-backs coach Todd Bowles succeeded Castillo. The Eagles lost nine of their remaining 10 games, allowed nearly 32 points per game and a passer rating of 123.6, by far the worst in the league in that span.
In the midst of this, after the fifth post-Castillo loss Reid cut smart-mouth defensive end Jason Babin, a former first-round bust who flourished only in the wide-nine under Washburn, a bitter and righteous malcontent whom Reid fired the next week. Babin landed in Jacksonville, where he cemented his image as a selfish, surly, limited player.

Even when cast as scapegoat, Castillo - honorable to the end - offered no hint of outrage and never exulted in the team's failures. Perhaps the wrong three men were let go during the season.

In the light of the insanity that surrounded it, Reid's choice to let franchise running back LeSean McCoy remain in a game impossible to win seems a pedestrian oversight.

McCoy suffered a severe concussion. On a running play. From the Eagles' 36. Trailing by 25 points. With 2 minutes to play.

Asked twice afterward why McCoy - who broke the franchise's touchdown record in 2011 - was in the game, Reid twice replied, with the obstinate smugness that marred his 14-year tenure, that Reid was trying to win the game.

McCoy missed the next four games.

Quarterback Michael Vick had suffered a severe concussion the week before McCoy suffered his, which cost Vick the next six games. Standout tight end Brent Celek suffered a concussion in Game 13 and missed a week.

All three could play major roles in the Eagles' future. All three have large chunks of their careers ahead of them. There was no reason for any of them to play again in 2012, especially considering the NFL's purported concern for player safety and its heightened alarm at the effects of concussions.

Reid must have missed those memos.

McCoy and Celek returned for the last two games; Vick, for the finale.

Why? Because they gave Reid the best chance to win.

Reid.

Yes, Reid likely will be paid to make these decisions again in 2012, and beyond.

Certainly, in concert with former front-office savant Joe Banner, Reid deserves credit for his transformation of the Eagles into a respected, if corporatized, franchise. Exactly what Arizona never has been.

Buyers, beware.
http://articles.philly.com/2013-01-0...eid-head-coach

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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 09:02 AM
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by flipped cracka
Chiefs. All that needs to be said.
Raiders.

Originally Posted by e3NiNe
That entire organization is a mess. I'm not a hater, just calling it as it-is.

The Carson Palmer trade set you guys back quite a bit.
Hopefully they get smart and start Pryor next season.

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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 09:05 AM
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 10:19 AM
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Shanahan needs to be staked for not pulling him when he ran that 10 yard gain and was limping the WHOLE way.
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 11:21 AM
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RGIII was never cleared to return to game action and it's CRAZY that his knee still collapsed with the brace.

The guy has guts ... but holy shit.
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