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Straight out of the mouth's of Democrats. How they sing a different tune now. Gotta love how they talk out of their asses

 

This is why I have increasing respect for Joe Leiberman. He is the only Democrat that has stood by his assertions before the war, and while he may dislike some of the manner in which the war has been fought he has not once gone on record and claimed that President Bush lied or deceived the US to go to war. He knows what is right, he knows the intelligence was compelling, he knows there was more to going to war than just WMD, and he knows that parts of the intelligence were wrong and that alone does not mean any politician (Conressman, Senator, or President) lied because they believe what the US spy and intelligence experts were saying to them was true.

 

I can't believe Republicans have the nerve to say Democrats are dishonest about the war. The world is officially upside-down.

 

I would take anything off either the GOP of Democrat homepages with a grain of salt. It's all political propaganda spin BS. Dems call President Bush a liar. The Republicans call Congressman Murtha a coward. The circle goes on.

Yet another reason we need to trash both parties. Both are slaves to their radical bases and completely out of touch with the bulk of their constituents.

 

How are the Republicans dishonest about it? The Dems were all for it and then once Bush went in they sang a different tune. Did you even watch the video?

 

I would say it's more that they're slaves of high $ dollar donating lobbyists ( one very extreme base that plays both parties) and at the same time trying so hard not to alienate any of the various "base" voting groups that exist by pretending to be moderate and shifting their platforms to whatever situation they're in, rendering both completley ineffective as anything but enforcers of the interests of the extremley wealthy, but in general yeah, what you say is right on,,

And about this thread, jesus fucking christ. Dem's are changing their platform about the war yeah. So is the national popular opinion, so are Congress and the Senate (both with what party in majroity again?), so, I would argue, is anyone who has thught about the pros and cons of our continued presence there.

pointing out that democrats are politicians, doing something politicians do, seems like someone has an axe to grind, doesn't it?... after all republicans do exaclty the same thing all the time, and their party certainly isn't involved in a bunch of scandals that are about 1000 times worse right now, or are they??

honestly, all snarking aside, what's the reason for pointing this out?

 

after watching the video, it's just some sound bytes, totally out of context and some are along the lines of "i support the president" "Iraq and Iran are possible threats"

do these really show a pro-war stance that the individuals have somehow repented? I dont' really see that.

Also, rational minds can be changed, that isn't a bad thing, if that's happened with some of the politicians in that video, am I the only one who thinks jumping from then to statments like "democrats dishonest about Iraq" is a little,,,(looking for a nicer word) ridiculous?

 

I think the biggest reason for pointing this out is that many prominent Democrats are singing the tune the President Bush lied to go to Iraq when the evidence at the time pointed to him doing so. Not only did President Bush believe the intelligence but so did many of these same Democrats that are now claiming the intelligence was intentionally manipulated by President Bush.

They are being dishonest because there has been zero proof that President Bush lied to go to war. Sure the intelligence was wrong, but to intentionally lie he would have needed to know the opposite was true and then manipulated the intelligence. There is no evidence he did this. Everyone believed the intelligence from Bush 41, to Clinton to Bush 43. And it was Clinton that signed into law that regime change in Iraq was the official policy of the US.

If people want to disagree on how the war has been fought, the troop levels that were used, and whether or not the troops should be home right now then that is fine. If someone supported the war and now feels that we acomplished what was needed and we should leave that is fine. But to try and re-write history by claiming something that is not is dishonest and that is the point of this thread.