I've heard good things about the new one.


except: durability.

 

I bought it realizing that a lot of people think anything by TW is crap. But as i said, for whatever reason, i get better results with the plain old TW than even with mguires, which for me worked like it was worth a nickel at most. So if this new stuff is better i can't see disliking it. longevity, well, no wax has it so WTF. I just don't wanna spend 2 days and $100 "sealing" my car. I'll bite the bullet and wax it 4-5 times a year.

 

In the end it either shines or it doesn't. It's whatever works for you.

But I must say I have used Meguiars Gold Class and well, it's just a cleaner wax with fancy packaging. I wouldn't be surprised if the new turtle wax was better--Megs GC is in major need of a redo.

(just to note: #16 contains no cleaners, it's a completely different formula, and it's really the only meguiars wax that I like. Their polishes are good--their consumer/non-professional products are lackluster, although I've heard good things about ColorX which is in a black bottle and can get it anywhere--it's a cleaner wax with a bit more cleaning ability--may want to try that before the turtle wax. )

 

Well, i already bought the TW platinum, but heres another couple questions.......
1)-i really don't want to clay this car because i don't like using abrasives (which clay does become unless you throw them away fairly quickly, which is expensive at $20 a pop) on a dark finish. So what is the next best thing as far as liquids go to get rid of contaminents w/o being abrasive?

2)-whats a good detailer liquid for in between waxes? I've used mothers and it worked good, but is there anything cheaper thats as good? (i just go thru that stuff too fast to be economical)

Oh, and again, this is a brand new accord that i've only had about a week.

 

Meguiars Quick Detailer is my friend. Love it, smells good too. Yes, I have this fetish with car products which scents don't cause you to pass out.

 

I like Eagle One Wax As You Dry after washing (you can dilute it 3 parts water to 1 part solution too).

The turtle wax platinum series QD is suppose to be good too.

As for the clay question: No chemical cleaner will even begin to touch the contamination as well as clay can. Chemical cleaners are meant to clean oxidation and paint imperfections: not contamination. Most of them contain light abrassives anyway (it's probably just as safe as when you rum some of the dir against the car while washing...so I don't know why there's a concern over using light abrassives anyway).

Why, you're in luck.

First the paint needs to be sprayed with a small amount of clay lube (i mix a drop of car shampoo into 32oz of water and it works great!)

Then you take the clay and form a wafer


Using the wafer you work in a straight line motion in the direction of air and water flow on the panel:


Once the clay gets dirty, it needs to be folded and restretched into a clean wafer so as not to drag larger contaminants across the paint causing more scratches and swirls.

if it looks like this, it is dirty


Wipe off the excess clay lube and move on.

If you keep refolding the clay you will be fine. Yes it gets gritty--then you throw it out and get a new one. You can cut one in half--I do it all the time. A half of a clay bar is more then enough to do one car (i've done 3 with the same bar before putting it in a bag and only using it for wheels).

 

Thanks, i'll check it out this weekend if i can find it locally. And yes, i know what you mean about the smell.....i always felt like i wanted to drink that friggin mothers detailer.........ummmmm !

 

Opps......posted the same time as you......i was responding to maxboost's post. As for the clay thing, well, i just feel like it's too abrasive unless you throw it out after very little use, and thats too expensive. (why is a little bar of that so damn expensive anyway?!!) Also, i'm deathly afraid of abrasives of any kind on a dark car. While you may not notice the fine swirling or scratches directly, the more there is the more the car just doesn't have that factory new paint look. Thats why i always buy silver cars...doesn't show near as much. But having gotten such a great deal on this graphite coupe, and the fact that i just began to love that color, i couldn't pass it up. So i'm just kinda paranoid right now since i just got it. (in 6 mo. or a year i'll probably be claiying it to death tho )

 

I use NXT on my Bimmer :thumbup:

 

I don't know, when I'm finished with a car, the owners always say it looks better than when they bought it.

Clay is expensive. But it works so well that it's a necessity for me. Nothing else can do what it does. There is a slight chance of micromarring--which, well, light polish will take out.

Swirls are more formed by improper washing and drying then wax or polish.

As somebody that isn't a full somebody that isn't a full out detailer--you shouldn't be afraid of a product that says it has a ligh polish in it. Just don't touch those Turtle Wax rubbing compounds--those are by far the worste thing I have seen people use on paint. A lot of these polishes also contain beneficial oils that are taken out of the paint by claying or chemically cleaning. This helps with premature clearcoat failure (cracking, dryness).