Help!! Problem W/ Drivetrain!!!
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gsrcrazy1
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The point he is trying to make is that unless you are using drag slicks, the burnout is pointless. :shake:
Street tires use entirely different rubber compounds to produce traction.
If your friend is doing a 10 sec burnout at the line, all he is doing is wasting rubber and hurting his launch traction by covering the ground with chunks of tire rubber.
And yes, there are parts in the transmission which can fail and produce the problem you're talking about.
If you really are posting for a friend, get him to register and post with a description of what's going on. I'm not going to rely on a game of "telephone" to try and diagnose his problem.
And if you or your friend are racing on the street, be aware that all street racing discussions are banned on this site. Our Drag Strip forum is for sanctioned, legal racing only. Do not test our patience on this issue.
Street tires use entirely different rubber compounds to produce traction.
If your friend is doing a 10 sec burnout at the line, all he is doing is wasting rubber and hurting his launch traction by covering the ground with chunks of tire rubber.
And yes, there are parts in the transmission which can fail and produce the problem you're talking about.
If you really are posting for a friend, get him to register and post with a description of what's going on. I'm not going to rely on a game of "telephone" to try and diagnose his problem.
And if you or your friend are racing on the street, be aware that all street racing discussions are banned on this site. Our Drag Strip forum is for sanctioned, legal racing only. Do not test our patience on this issue.
irwindale raceway... = ] by the 605 fwy and the 60 here in SoCal
2. hes using nitto 555r's... which i think are drag radials....
STICKY TIRES...(DR'S)
3. 10 sec burn out.??? r u serious??? that would take tons of ppl to hold the car back for a honda to do that...i just dont know what ur thinking..
4.
And yes, there are parts in the transmission which can fail and produce the problem you're talking about.
5.
If you really are posting for a friend, get him to register and post with a description of what's going on. I'm not going to rely on a game of "telephone" to try and diagnose his problem.
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gsrcrazy1
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what makes you think having drag radials would help do burn outs? they're sticky tires that are made to help you launch the car better, not do burn outs.
when you say "ONLY WHEN HE TRIES TO DO A GOOD BURN OUT W/ STICKY TIRES...(DR'S) AND IT JUST STAYS THERE DOING NOTHING..."
do you mean hes bogging down or something?
when you say "ONLY WHEN HE TRIES TO DO A GOOD BURN OUT W/ STICKY TIRES...(DR'S) AND IT JUST STAYS THERE DOING NOTHING..."
do you mean hes bogging down or something?
by good burn out...i mean getting the tires sticky enough to where they hook good enough...not do a smoke show which seems ur perspective of a burn out
the tires dont spin...u could just hear the revs go up while the clutch is all the way out...and the car moves out slowly
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1. did u not read the post???
2. hes using nitto 555r's... which i think are drag radials.... and he doesnt get a good launch...cuz the tires dont get sticky enough....duh..no burn out...
3. 10 sec burn out.??? r u serious??? that would take tons of ppl to hold the car back for a honda to do that...i just dont know what ur thinking..
4. finally! ok..so this could b a prob too...so ur saying could b either or??
5. ok..i prabably know the same or more of whats going on...im gonna more than likely help him fix it if hes cheap and doesnt want to take it to a mechanic...
2. hes using nitto 555r's... which i think are drag radials.... and he doesnt get a good launch...cuz the tires dont get sticky enough....duh..no burn out...
3. 10 sec burn out.??? r u serious??? that would take tons of ppl to hold the car back for a honda to do that...i just dont know what ur thinking..
4. finally! ok..so this could b a prob too...so ur saying could b either or??
5. ok..i prabably know the same or more of whats going on...im gonna more than likely help him fix it if hes cheap and doesnt want to take it to a mechanic...
You had not yet posted that info when I quoted your earlier comment.
2. Thanks for telling us which tires he's using AFTER we guess.
3. I was illustrating a point, not making a literal suggestion.
4. For the love of God, use real english. I'm not going to sift through verbal sewage trying to decode your posts.
5. Okay then... can you give us more info?
Is the clutch slipping further down the track, after he has shifted?
How about on the street? Does the transmission pop out of gear?
If so, in which gears?
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Clutch most likely can't handle trying to turn the tires.
If the transmission is stock then you most likely have an open carrier and to get both tires to burn you either have to put in a locker/lsd or you can weld the diff so it turns both sides at the same time (don't weld on a street car, not advisable though not unheard of).
What engine is he running?
How old is the clutch?
He does know that drag radials don't have to be burned right? (you can but not necessary)
If the transmission is stock then you most likely have an open carrier and to get both tires to burn you either have to put in a locker/lsd or you can weld the diff so it turns both sides at the same time (don't weld on a street car, not advisable though not unheard of).
What engine is he running?
How old is the clutch?
He does know that drag radials don't have to be burned right? (you can but not necessary)
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1.
You had not yet posted that info when I quoted your earlier comment.
2. Thanks for telling us which tires he's using AFTER we guess.
3. I was illustrating a point, not making a literal suggestion.
4. For the love of God, use real english. I'm not going to sift through verbal sewage trying to decode your posts.
5. Okay then... can you give us more info?
Is the clutch slipping further down the track, after he has shifted?
How about on the street? Does the transmission pop out of gear?
If so, in which gears?
You had not yet posted that info when I quoted your earlier comment.
2. Thanks for telling us which tires he's using AFTER we guess.
3. I was illustrating a point, not making a literal suggestion.
4. For the love of God, use real english. I'm not going to sift through verbal sewage trying to decode your posts.
5. Okay then... can you give us more info?
Is the clutch slipping further down the track, after he has shifted?
How about on the street? Does the transmission pop out of gear?
If so, in which gears?
the clutch doesnt feel like it slips near the middle or end of the track...when he slams into second he sometimes miss shifts...but im guessing that this is because of bad driving skills...because when i did a pass down the track i got every gear in..and i couldnt warm up the tires...inside the car it sometimes smelled like burnt brakes...the car drives fine in the street...
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One more thing I want to add...
To do a good burnout pull the parking brake up and put the car into second gear. Rev the motor up a ways then dump out the clutch and give it a good burn.
Do not hold the car back by pushing against it. Seriously man last thing any of us wants to hear is that some kid got hit while holding his buddies car back during a burnout and the thing slipped and launched into him.
To do a good burnout pull the parking brake up and put the car into second gear. Rev the motor up a ways then dump out the clutch and give it a good burn.
Do not hold the car back by pushing against it. Seriously man last thing any of us wants to hear is that some kid got hit while holding his buddies car back during a burnout and the thing slipped and launched into him.
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w/e...forget the rest...im here to troubleshoot a problem not argue...
the clutch doesnt feel like it slips near the middle or end of the track...when he slams into second he sometimes miss shifts...but im guessing that this is because of bad driving skills...because when i did a pass down the track i got every gear in..and i couldnt warm up the tires...inside the car it sometimes smelled like burnt brakes...the car drives fine in the street...
the clutch doesnt feel like it slips near the middle or end of the track...when he slams into second he sometimes miss shifts...but im guessing that this is because of bad driving skills...because when i did a pass down the track i got every gear in..and i couldnt warm up the tires...inside the car it sometimes smelled like burnt brakes...the car drives fine in the street...
Yep needs a new clutch it is probably beginning to slip.
BTW Dave knows what he is talking about so don't feel he is discrediting you. You just so happen to catch me in a kind mood, normally I am not this polite
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Clutch most likely can't handle trying to turn the tires.
If the transmission is stock then you most likely have an open carrier and to get both tires to burn you either have to put in a locker/lsd or you can weld the diff so it turns both sides at the same time (don't weld on a street car, not advisable though not unheard of).
What engine is he running?
How old is the clutch?
He does know that drag radials don't have to be burned right? (you can but not necessary)
If the transmission is stock then you most likely have an open carrier and to get both tires to burn you either have to put in a locker/lsd or you can weld the diff so it turns both sides at the same time (don't weld on a street car, not advisable though not unheard of).
What engine is he running?
How old is the clutch?
He does know that drag radials don't have to be burned right? (you can but not necessary)
the tranny is stock...and when he takes it to the track w/ the street tires he sometimes burns out w/ 1 tire and sometimes w/ both..
*hes running the type s motor...i think stamped the a2 or something like that..
*yea...i had them on my car (integra) and if i didnt warm them up they wouldnt hook...
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the tranny is stock...and when he takes it to the track w/ the street tires he sometimes burns out w/ 1 tire and sometimes w/ both..
*hes running the type s motor...i think stamped the a2 or something like that..
*yea...i had them on my car (integra) and if i didnt warm them up they wouldnt hook...
*hes running the type s motor...i think stamped the a2 or something like that..
*yea...i had them on my car (integra) and if i didnt warm them up they wouldnt hook...
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clutch giving out ...sounds about right...but what about the tranny??? is it true that this type of slipping could be caused by the tranny??? ive never messed around w/ trannys
...only swapping them out ...so idk..thnx..
...only swapping them out ...so idk..thnx..