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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 08:51 AM
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I've got a 98' prelude with 110K on the engine. First, i need to know if it would be worth doing any form of forced induction, or if i should swap the engine for a b13 (as was recommended to me) with less miles. But would work better? I've heard of people doing both.
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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The H22 doesn't do very good on boost unless you build the motor to hold more than 6lbs. But I would say supercharger if you did it, but most would say turbo charger
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 09:50 AM
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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b13??? a forced induction setup will cost alot of money....unless you piece it, in which case it probably won't be reliable.

Supercharged h22s are sick, expensive but sick, also, run really hot inside that engine bay.

Turbo'd h22 are fine, but you'd probably be better running an all motor setup, how much power are you looking for?

Run an cai, (injen, iceman) light cams, a fuel pressure regulator a 2.5" header with 2.5" exhaust out with a high flow cat. Just the basics with an apexi vafc tune you could be running a good bit of power, plenty for daily driving and the occassional car ripping. You may want to add in a larger throttle body so you don't bottleneck the intake. Also I recommend upgrading the clutch/flywheel.


You could be running close to 190-200whp with that setup
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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I'm guessing you meant b18? no way...stick with the H-series in the lude. Turbo charged lude's are so sweet, but pricey when figuring in the amount to build the block. Personally I like what Godo said, N/A's probably the best idea...and it's what I will be persuing with my lude in the future. But it all depeneds, how much are you looking to spend?
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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Money isn't really an issue. Granted I have none at the time, It was my lude that johar posted about for the body kit and paint instal. Which i found for 1600 cash. Pretty good if you ask me. Guys doin a great job so far. But i have no problem making the money i need.

I really have my heart set on the supercharger. If it means all i have to do are the cams and the fuel (i've got the other bolt-ons) and the throttle body, i'll be set. But I'm still worried about the mileage. Isn't it a bit high for a supercharger?
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 04:34 AM
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yeah I think its a little too high to boost it. Unless you babied it, but why would you boost it only to baby it ya know?

My si is at 195k and I was contemplating boosting @ 6lbs cause i got a SICK deal from a local shop for a complete installed turbo kit minus intercooler piping (kit costs about 300$) for 1500$ installed. fmu, turbo, mani everything. but i realized even with the h23 being a trooper and lasting forever that i'd probably blow it in a month.

so i decided h22 with an lsd and some meaningful bolt ons and light cams will get me where I want.
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 07:11 AM
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So, then what about an engine swap? Could I swap my h22 for a newer one with less miles, then i could boost that couldnt I? That souldnt affect any of the bolt-on stuff I've got now right? But I'm looking at what... 6-7 grand there on that job?
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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No, Honda motors are not made for boosting. They are made for engine compression. If you want boost on your honda, then take mine and probably a few of these peoples advice and put your money in the internals for that engine. If you aren't that serious about your honda and you just want to rush throwing boost on it, have fun for that month and thats if you keep the boost under 7lbs on honda motors that redline at 6500, when you talk vtec and b-class engines, 5lbs at best because of their super high redlines and high compression. Most hondas run somewhere around 175psi per cylinder which is why they are considered high compressed motors. In order to run boost you have to lower that psi. to around 130-140psi per cylinder. Without re-building your engine you are just throwing your money away if you try to boost, but hey what you do with your money is your business.
Hope my information is somewhat leading you the right direction, oh and Nitrous = No Mas so wouldn't do that on any stock honda engine either.
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PoloBoy
No, Honda motors are not made for boosting. They are made for engine compression. If you want boost on your honda, then take mine and probably a few of these peoples advice and put your money in the internals for that engine. If you aren't that serious about your honda and you just want to rush throwing boost on it, have fun for that month and thats if you keep the boost under 7lbs on honda motors that redline at 6500, when you talk vtec and b-class engines, 5lbs at best because of their super high redlines and high compression. Most hondas run somewhere around 175psi per cylinder which is why they are considered high compressed motors. In order to run boost you have to lower that psi. to around 130-140psi per cylinder. Without re-building your engine you are just throwing your money away if you try to boost, but hey what you do with your money is your business.
Hope my information is somewhat leading you the right direction, oh and Nitrous = No Mas so wouldn't do that on any stock honda engine either.
Blah, blah, blah.

So my 250 psi per cylinder 150k mile bone fucking stock GSR motor revving to 8k daily driven running 10 psi should have been blown up a hundred times already then? Spare me.
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