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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 07:25 AM
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93 lude h23a1 motor cold air or short ram air intake? chip what kind or just use like jet ? under pully what kind ? staight pipe duel without cat we have no emmisions here and should i get some sort of racing mufflers ? heads what type? im gonna try and get 210 horse just without putting in a turbo charger then upgrade the turbo on it by the way does anyone think by using the turbo as a daily that it will mess up the engine or any of the componets in any way?my engine has 160 horses to start off with im gonna try for 210 or more with out the turbo . ooops i just said that earlier .
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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with all the things that you just listed might net you about 10-15hp to the wheels, then you would probebly be at 130ish horsepower. to get to 210 you would need to go forced induction or go into the motor and swap out the internals. its not practical to go all motor with the h23.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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Dont start buying NA stuff if you want to go FI in the future. A lot of the stuff wont be compatable and youll waste $$.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 01:37 PM
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you think that that will only put me at 10-15 horses so if im at already 160 it would be somewhere around 175 that sucks i thought that air intake is gonna add 8 "cold air" heads would add another 8 straight pipe all the way back elliminating the catalatic convertor with dues exhaust would add another 8 add a high performance chip sould add another 20 under pulleys another 8 i thought when i did some research that that was what it said ? am i wrong also when im done with the motor im gonna make sure to install a turbo charger but not to sure on how much boost to put im gonna have it as a daily driver the reason why i dont want to put in the h22 motor in is because my h23a1 only has 43,000 original miles original engine the car is like in ment condition do dings no dents tip top condition.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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if the motor has that amount of miles on it, it would be a perfect candidate for boost. just make sure you dont run more than 8psi.
the intake might add about 3hp, header might add about 4, header-back exhaust would probebly add 4 or 5, and the pulleys would probebly be about 2 or 3. you dont need to add a "chip" for any reason to a reletively stock motor. i was talking about horsepower to the wheels, thats why it would be in the 125-130 range with all those bolt-ons.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 06:14 PM
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from what i know, having a header would give you 7 hp or having an intake that gives you 3 hp-well if you were to install them together, you dont gain 10. it doesnt add like that in your favor.
also keep in mind that whp is way different than the crank, like joe said.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:44 PM
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what exactly is the diffrence?
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 08:04 AM
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well, horsepower at the crank would be before it goes through the transaxle and out through to the wheels. wheel horsepower is less than crank horsepower because all the power gets reduced when you put gears and other things such as wheels and axles in the way to move. your motor takes effort to spin these things. so horse power at the crank is just the horsepower before it goes through the tranny.

edit: there is no guarenteed amount of horsepower gains when you install anything on your motor. every engine reacts differently to mods even though it has the same engine code. manufactureers just give a rough estimate that is hardly ever right.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 09:11 AM
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i wouldnt boost an h23 past 6psi. very weak ringlands on the pistons.

As far as achieving 210hp... swap the motor out, h23 just isnt a good platform without building the block.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 04:39 PM
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does anyone know anyone who would swap a h22 for my h23 with extremlly low miles on it!
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