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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 07:30 AM
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hey guys
thought id share about how i almost ruined my h22 yesterday, and how i "cheated honda".

as some of you know the timing belt and tensioner assembly on the h22a are quite complicated and sometimes a bitch to install with the hydraulic auto tensioner.

well i was adjusting my cam gears yesterday and the exhaust cam was stuck (those skunk2 gears are SUCH a bitch to adjust), so i was lightly tapping a 14mm box wrench on the Cam bolt when all of a sudden the whole exhaust cam jumped a tooth on the belt. Now im no big city lawyer, but this spells serious trouble. So i step back holding my face and now the race is on with 1 hour of daylight remaining and 30* temps approaching. Me and my friend start brainstorming and we come up with this plan:
Use 1 of my stock cam gears to shimmi the belt onto, tap the exhaust cam 1 tooth retarded and then shimmi the belt back onto the skunk2 exhaust cam gear.
so we measure the vertical distance between the motor mount bracket and the bottom of the cam gear, then we cut a small block of wood to match. Now we rest the stock cam gear on top of the wood with some minor adjustments and line up the two gears' teeth and begin the shimmi process.
After about 30 minutes of slow shimi'in we had the belt on the other gear, rotated the exhaust cam back and then another 30 mins of slow but steady shimmi'in back to the skunk2 gear.
Car hits 8000 no problem, no timing belt "flap" at idle and we made sure not to use any metal tools to shimmi so we didnt nick the belt at all.
HONDA SAYS IT CANT BE DONE WITHOUT REMOVING THE T-BELT
BULLSHIT
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 10:42 AM
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Sounds like quite the adventure. I have my entire motor out and last night I was trying to get the crank pulley off so I took a 14 mil ratchet on tighten and put it on one of my cam gears so when I tried to get the crank pulley off it would spin the whole motor until the ratchet hit the motor mount and that held every thing at a stop. I then proceeded to try and loosen the crank pulley and it just turned and the belt slipped on both the cam gears. sounds like they slip pretty easy
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 10:51 AM
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Certain points in the rotation have a LOT of slack compared to other points, TDC has a good amount of slack, i find that with the crank pulley its worth it to remove your PS and Alternator belts, and then invest the $30 for a chain strap wrench + a long pipe to hold the pulley. The only other way i have been able to get the crank pulley off was if the tranny was off and i could put a punch thru on of the flywheel bolt holes and immobilize the flywheel. Ive been trying to find what tool fits in that giant hexagon shaped hole on the end of the crank pulley, as im sure this is how Honda does it. But no luck on that lead.
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:54 AM
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http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/SP-98450.html

Saved my ass.. That 19mm was not going to budge without this. It took 2 1/2" breakers, my feet and everything I had in me to get that nut off.

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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 05:26 PM
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Ther are few things in life that scare me: Tammy Faye Baker, Hillary Clinton as President, and mucking around with my engine's timing.

You gotta have ice in your veins to pull that stunt off. Good job! :thumbup:
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by fastball
Ther are few things in life that scare me: Tammy Faye Baker, Hillary Clinton as President, and mucking around with my engine's timing.

You gotta have ice in your veins to pull that stunt off. Good job! :thumbup:

That has got to be the statement of the day. hahahahahahah
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ludeboom
Ive been trying to find what tool fits in that giant hexagon shaped hole on the end of the crank pulley, as im sure this is how Honda does it. But no luck on that lead.
~kris
Moroso (think thats how you spell it) makes one. There are a couple of others who do also. I have to pick one up tomorrow for like $100 to get my pulley off :doh:
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 06:26 PM
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here is Moroso's



here is the website
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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Scary is reality. Reality is the triumph of mediocrity. Hillary is anything but mediocre. You figure it out.
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sssor
Scary is reality. Reality is the triumph of mediocrity. Hillary is anything but mediocre. You figure it out.
ok wrong post for a first-timer, no offense but seriously.

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