ok, this is really for an accord, but i figured that the majority of you lude guys know the H22 inside out by now and i could use your help

i need an estimate on how much an engine rebuild for a h22 would cost if i wanted to say "bullet proof" it... this includes everything from new pistons/rods/sleeves to god knows what i havent thought of.... i've heard stuff about new cam gears that might help as well as sending things off to get machined.... i would apreciate any help i can get

could you also give me your opinions on what else i could add to make the engine more stable at lets say 14+psi?

 

Right there is your answer on what to do to make your car bullet proof. I just got it back too from Golden Eagle. They warranty it to 65 lbs of boost pressure so I'd say that's pretty bullet proof. About 3 grand to have GE do everything. They built it, balanced, blueprinted it. They don't overlook even the smallest detail. It's even been line honed which ensures the most hp from the motor, pretty much the industry standard when it comes to building a block!

 

is that just the block? or do they do the valves aswell?

 

That's just the block man! The head was sent out seperately. I've got about 6.500 bucks in this build. So my advice is unless you've got 10 grand for a build like this plus a turbo you might as well just buy a car that was actually meant to be turbo'd like a mr2 or supra or something. Personally turbo on a lude is just downright gay in my opinion. It would've been made that way from the factory if it was meant to be. Why ruin a h22 with a turbo, it's one of the best motors honda has to build it N/A and have a reliable engine that is naturally aspirated. How many engines do you know that are 4 cylinders and can say they've got 200 hp stock naturally aspirated. I'm looking at 280-300 crank hp with this build which is much more manageable than any turbo that's for sure. All you will do with a turbo on a lude is spin tires thru 3 gears, break axles, have to tune it all the time, and probably blow it up unless built! I could've made 500-600 hp easy with management and a big ass turbo on this built block but why. Hp is only good if you can get it to the ground something a turbo usually doesn't allow unless you're running 4 lbs of boost. I'd like to see more people go my route with ludes and stay all motor. Turbo is a good way to ruin what a prelude was built for. Have fun in the corners with that turbo! Get my drift or am I a retard?????

 

 

if driven intelligently I don't get how the turbo is going to effect turning ability.

 

That's the whole thing, most who turbo their car and are into this scene don't drive their car intelligently and that's obvious by the videos that get posted on these internet forums. How often do you see people using nitrous on a road course? Turbo's are made for straight line speed unless you've got big bucks for an awesome setup to keep the turbo cool and engine cool in lets say an auto x race or road race? I just think turbo on a front wheel drive car is retarded but this is only my opinion and it only means something to me or anyone that agrees.

 

it's going into a 4dr accord and not a 'lude i would strictly agree with you that a turbo doesnt belong in a lude, but the higher weight of the accord 4dr 5th gen (94-97... one of the best looking hondas of all time i must say... close tiie between lude 5th gen and 5th gen accords) requires that i push a little extra, and i figured if i were going to push it with FI i might as well make it worth while... i am already planning on eventually upgrading the axles and such and this is going to be a 3 or 4 step process, the turbo comes last and it will probly be a little while before i put it in (like a year + after the h22 is in) i just figured i'd get the h22 all nice and ready for boost, not to mention more reliable than it already is.

what should i do to the head to make it boost ready?
and was that 3 grand for everything included or just the rebuild of the block... did you get any pistons or rods... because i saw your other posts saying you have 11.5 comp pistons at the same time youg ot this fixed up

 

I've got a set of koni yellows on neuspeed springs coupled with atts, there's no comparison in handling dealing with the accord 5th gen. My dad had a 2002 coupe and I've drove both not even close end of the discussion kinda! The whole block was just under 3000 bucks that's including JE forged pistons and H beam forged rods with all arp bolts even in the mains! Just get it sleeved and then when you decide if you want turbo make the call on the pistons then!

 

wait a minute.. so are you hating or liking the 7 link in the back?

and thats what i mean, you got pistons and everything so it'll cost me like 5-6 grand to get the block and make it all nice and i dont think the head should cost more than 2 to fix up.. right? now that puts me at like 8 grand, and then the turbo DIY setup should cost me like 3.5k, that puts me to about 11.5k and then the axles and other things (like injectors and everything) should put me to about 13k and thats my idea for the next 3-4 years...