Theorys on Preludes Demise
Originally Posted by Kai
Short of a turbocharger (which Honda hasn't used on a passenger car since the City Turbo II in the early 80's) and an all wheel drive system (not the overexpensive and highly complex RL SH-AWD, the weak Civic/CRV/Element "Realtime AWD" or the wimpy Pilot/Ridgeline/MDX VTM-4) that's not going to happen.
I would love to see the Prelude back, in a 2600-2700 pound body, producing ~220 horsepower. Just use a longer and shorter Civic/RSX platform and price it around $22-24k. If base model Accords can be sold under $17k, I know they can fit that bill.
P.S.: Dead thread.
I would love to see the Prelude back, in a 2600-2700 pound body, producing ~220 horsepower. Just use a longer and shorter Civic/RSX platform and price it around $22-24k. If base model Accords can be sold under $17k, I know they can fit that bill.
P.S.: Dead thread.
come on now
OK this has gone slightly off topic
Lets end the 13B VS H22 now. 13B = 654cc * 2 = about 1.3 litres. HOWEVER as rotaries fire 3 times instead of once pre cycle (13b vs h22) it CAN flow 2.6 litres (two extra 654s per cycle) BUT it IS 1.3 litres (Correct me if I am wrong)
As far as BHP/Litre is concerned the 13b wins. Rotaries have a clear advantage as I said before but have problems with US emissions and have a reputation for eating large quantities of oil. The H22 is big for honda but is an 'average' engine size at 2.2 (across the world anyways). The VTEC is a great way of getting a lot of power from the engine and the 3 stage H22 certainly is a good design. VTEC vs Rotary? Who knows. Theres bound to be more technology on the way from both ideals.
As for the demise of the prelude:
With a 2+2 layout being the design it wasn't really passenger friendly, compared with other hondas such as the civic coupe, which had more room and was cheaper to make as it was using an already existing chassis, whereas the prelude was all new, hence it would need to sell well to stay alive. Here in the UK there were too many alternatives to the prelude which came with better equipment and proper security and I suppose in the US it wouldn't help having the 'american muscle' idea in many peoples' lives. To many people a 2.2l coupe would sound ridiculous next to a v8 coupe (sorry Im not too great on american cars....
). I think the styling is spot on; looks great at the rear especially! The prelude is certainly a 'budget blaster' but with rising fuel costs who knows how long we can blast them around - seems like the demise might ultimately come full circle some day...
Lets end the 13B VS H22 now. 13B = 654cc * 2 = about 1.3 litres. HOWEVER as rotaries fire 3 times instead of once pre cycle (13b vs h22) it CAN flow 2.6 litres (two extra 654s per cycle) BUT it IS 1.3 litres (Correct me if I am wrong)
As far as BHP/Litre is concerned the 13b wins. Rotaries have a clear advantage as I said before but have problems with US emissions and have a reputation for eating large quantities of oil. The H22 is big for honda but is an 'average' engine size at 2.2 (across the world anyways). The VTEC is a great way of getting a lot of power from the engine and the 3 stage H22 certainly is a good design. VTEC vs Rotary? Who knows. Theres bound to be more technology on the way from both ideals.As for the demise of the prelude:
With a 2+2 layout being the design it wasn't really passenger friendly, compared with other hondas such as the civic coupe, which had more room and was cheaper to make as it was using an already existing chassis, whereas the prelude was all new, hence it would need to sell well to stay alive. Here in the UK there were too many alternatives to the prelude which came with better equipment and proper security and I suppose in the US it wouldn't help having the 'american muscle' idea in many peoples' lives. To many people a 2.2l coupe would sound ridiculous next to a v8 coupe (sorry Im not too great on american cars....
). I think the styling is spot on; looks great at the rear especially! The prelude is certainly a 'budget blaster' but with rising fuel costs who knows how long we can blast them around - seems like the demise might ultimately come full circle some day...


