Why do Atheists care about religion?
The displays is most of the country are not an issue because those areas are either homogeneous or the minorities are cowed and afraid to challenge the majority. Just because a local population chooses to ignore the substance of a particular law doesn't mean the law doesn't exist.
Anal sex, for example, is illegal in a few states. How often do you suppose John Law gives it to John Q Public up the ass for that one?
Anal sex, for example, is illegal in a few states. How often do you suppose John Law gives it to John Q Public up the ass for that one?
Separation of church and state is federal law. :P
Show me the federal law that explicitly states that there is a seperation of Church and state where the State cannot have any interaction with religion.
Our Constitution specifically states that there shall be no ESTABLISHMENT of religion. Support religion is not establishing religion. That clause was put in the Constitution to prohibit lawmakers from making this a Catholic, or Protestant, or Jewish nation where religion and government are intertwined and the people are forced to worship that religion only.
Our Constitution specifically states that there shall be no ESTABLISHMENT of religion. Support religion is not establishing religion. That clause was put in the Constitution to prohibit lawmakers from making this a Catholic, or Protestant, or Jewish nation where religion and government are intertwined and the people are forced to worship that religion only.
Show me the federal law that explicitly states that there is a seperation of Church and state where the State cannot have any interaction with religion.
Our Constitution specifically states that there shall be no ESTABLISHMENT of religion. Support religion is not establishing religion. That clause was put in the Constitution to prohibit lawmakers from making this a Catholic, or Protestant, or Jewish nation where religion and government are intertwined and the people are forced to worship that religion only.
Our Constitution specifically states that there shall be no ESTABLISHMENT of religion. Support religion is not establishing religion. That clause was put in the Constitution to prohibit lawmakers from making this a Catholic, or Protestant, or Jewish nation where religion and government are intertwined and the people are forced to worship that religion only.
Religion Trumps Regulation as Legal Exemptions Grow:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/08/bu...religious.html
Where Faith Abides, Employees Have Few Rights
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/09/bu...religious.html
...and taking it further, I find it ironic that pharmacists are allowed descretion as to who is allowed the "morning after pill", and prescribed birth control. Even worse, hospitols that have religious affiliations have full descretion as far as rape victims go. If 13 year old Angela is raped and ends up in ER at St. Josephs instead of *insert name here* hospital, it's up to the hospitol to decide if abortion is an option — regardless of state law.
Makes me sick.
Last edited by Duff Man; Oct 9, 2006 at 07:41 PM.
When the government spends money on a Christmas or Hanukah display, it is considered by the law to be an implicit endorsement of Christianity of Judaism. Preventing such a display is not considered abridging free speech because, believe it or not, the government has no right to free speech. The first amendment protects the speech of private entities, and not the state.
If a church wanted to pay for a manger display and was given permission from the mayor or whomever to display it on municipal property, I wonder if that would be considered an implicit endorsement as well. Any lawyers here?
If a church wanted to pay for a manger display and was given permission from the mayor or whomever to display it on municipal property, I wonder if that would be considered an implicit endorsement as well. Any lawyers here?
As for your question, our town council has wrestled with the problem. No Manger scenes on township property allowed regardless of funding source.
Now, the loophole.
During the "Winter Festival" any and all religious affiliations are allowed to petition for sidewalk space. Ostensibly, this is for the purpose of providing drinks/food/entertainment to the townsfolk. The catch is that there are NO limitations on the sidewalk displays.
...and taking it further, I find it ironic that pharmacists are allowed descretion as to who is allowed the "morning after pill", and prescribed birth control. Even worse, hospitols that have religious affiliations have full descretion as far as rape victims go. If 13 year old Angela is raped and ends up in ER at St. Josephs instead of *insert name here* hospital, it's up to the hospitol to decide if abortion is an option — regardless of state law.
Makes me sick.
Makes me sick.
They still have the option of getting services elsewhere. In a Missouri case, Doe vs. Poelker the state is required to have a facility capable of meeting this demand. The patient just has to be reffered to a treating physician that does not have any qualms about performing the proceedure.
This is a good thing. Then the state/feds can't MAKE a doctor or hospital perform a proceedure against their moral or religious convictions.
Why?
They still have the option of getting services elsewhere. In a Missouri case, Doe vs. Poelker the state is required to have a facility capable of meeting this demand. The patient just has to be reffered to a treating physician that does not have any qualms about performing the proceedure.
This is a good thing. Then the state/feds can't MAKE a doctor or hospital perform a proceedure against their moral or religious convictions.
They still have the option of getting services elsewhere. In a Missouri case, Doe vs. Poelker the state is required to have a facility capable of meeting this demand. The patient just has to be reffered to a treating physician that does not have any qualms about performing the proceedure.
This is a good thing. Then the state/feds can't MAKE a doctor or hospital perform a proceedure against their moral or religious convictions.
...and taking it further, I find it ironic that pharmacists are allowed descretion as to who is allowed the "morning after pill", and prescribed birth control. Even worse, hospitols that have religious affiliations have full descretion as far as rape victims go. If 13 year old Angela is raped and ends up in ER at St. Josephs instead of *insert name here* hospital, it's up to the hospitol to decide if abortion is an option — regardless of state law.
Makes me sick.
Makes me sick.
As far as hopitals go, if they are a privately funded religous hospital then by all means they have that right to decide not to perform abortions or provide the morning after pill. Any time I have been in an ambulance I have been given the option of what hospital to go to, the religious or the state/private funded secular hospital. People have a choice on where they go and if it is life or death it should not make a difference. I know abortion can be life or death sometimes when there is a complication in the pregnancy and in those instances I think the abortion is allowed to save the life of the mother.
IMHO I think this should be left to the States to decide by a refferendum voted on by the people.


