Impeaching Bush one state at a time
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Originally Posted by benjamin
As Kai pointed out, FDR was a Democrat. Eisenhower was a Republican who I would have voted for as many times as I could.
The Republican Party used to be the party of personal liberty and small government. They used to follow a doctrine of states rights. They used to act like all of the bill of rights was important -- not just the second amendment.
But now they think a woman's right to choose is superceded by religious beliefs. And that you can never spend enough on the government (as long as you're spending it on the DOD and not the NEA). Now they think that the pursuit of happiness is a right belonging only to heterosexuals. They used to think that a balanced federal budget mattered, but those days are long gone.
I'm exaggerating, but not by much, to make a point. Incidentally, lots of Democrats follow these same principles, and it angers me.
Nevertheless, no administration in history has been worse for the American people than this one. I hope GWB and Darth Cheney get thrown in jail along with Donald "I'm Cool With Torture" Rumsfeld and Alberto "Anything Goes In War" Gonzales.
The Republican Party used to be the party of personal liberty and small government. They used to follow a doctrine of states rights. They used to act like all of the bill of rights was important -- not just the second amendment.
But now they think a woman's right to choose is superceded by religious beliefs. And that you can never spend enough on the government (as long as you're spending it on the DOD and not the NEA). Now they think that the pursuit of happiness is a right belonging only to heterosexuals. They used to think that a balanced federal budget mattered, but those days are long gone.
I'm exaggerating, but not by much, to make a point. Incidentally, lots of Democrats follow these same principles, and it angers me.
Nevertheless, no administration in history has been worse for the American people than this one. I hope GWB and Darth Cheney get thrown in jail along with Donald "I'm Cool With Torture" Rumsfeld and Alberto "Anything Goes In War" Gonzales.
...not sure why I threw in the FDR - in fact, the Times just had an editorial on how some liberals are disregarding the liberal voice of the past 30 years and turning to classic visions of the then democratic party. I for one applaud this.
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Originally Posted by DVPGSR
Not going to happen. Especially around the NSA wiretapping issue which a majority of Americans support.
But I do agree with you, the bill may be introduced, but it will be killed pretty quickly.
Originally Posted by iNteGraz92
this is absurd and would never happen. they can try all they like.
Originally Posted by MellowGold
It's not absurd. Clinton got impeached.
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From: NH
Originally Posted by Kestrel
Just because people support it, doesn't make it legal. I'd say a majority of people are OK with speeding, doesn't mean you won't get a ticket for it. I think there is a valid question as to whether President Bush violated the law (which, ostensibly, would be examined in the trial proceedings of his impeachment).
But I do agree with you, the bill may be introduced, but it will be killed pretty quickly.
You have to realize that Clinton also had a Republican Congree impeach him. In this case, Bush and the Congress are supposedly on the same side. The party will not embarass itself; this will be scuttled.
But I do agree with you, the bill may be introduced, but it will be killed pretty quickly.
You have to realize that Clinton also had a Republican Congree impeach him. In this case, Bush and the Congress are supposedly on the same side. The party will not embarass itself; this will be scuttled.
As for breaking the law I have seen plenty of legal analyst come out and say that either A) it was within his right to do or B) the law is murky and there is no way to prove he did/did not break the law. I support President Bush doing that and would have supported a Democrat for doing the same thing.
Clinton also was caught in a bold-faced lie directly to the American people and after it was proven were impeachment procedings begun. As much as some people really, really want to prove President Bush has broken the law it has yet to happen.
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Originally Posted by DVPGSR
I wasn't trying to say it was legal or not by what the majority of Americans think. The point I was trying to get across is that the majority of politicians are not going to do something in the face of large opposition from their constituents. (Well except Ted Kennedy who complains about energy prices on one hand nad tries to kill the Cape Wind project with the other(I support Cape Wind BTW))
As for breaking the law I have seen plenty of legal analyst come out and say that either A) it was within his right to do or B) the law is murky and there is no way to prove he did/did not break the law. I support President Bush doing that and would have supported a Democrat for doing the same thing.
Clinton also was caught in a bold-faced lie directly to the American people and after it was proven were impeachment procedings begun. As much as some people really, really want to prove President Bush has broken the law it has yet to happen.
As for breaking the law I have seen plenty of legal analyst come out and say that either A) it was within his right to do or B) the law is murky and there is no way to prove he did/did not break the law. I support President Bush doing that and would have supported a Democrat for doing the same thing.
Clinton also was caught in a bold-faced lie directly to the American people and after it was proven were impeachment procedings begun. As much as some people really, really want to prove President Bush has broken the law it has yet to happen.