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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bl@ck
you must've missed the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals report dated 12/13/2005.
Does that matter? He was saying that MRC is a heavily biased group, which is true. Anything they publish should be subject to skepticism, just like things published by FAIR.

(I know that Bl@ck is familiar with FAIR from previous posts, but if you haven't seen the page, its at www.fair.org. There is some interesting stuff there, and also some rants disguised as news. The Rush Limbaugh series is really funny.)
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by benjamin
Holy misleading headlines, Batman.



I really don't know what these numbers show except that more black people were killed than white people. I'm pretty sure that can be reasonably expected after a natural disaster in an area where more black people live than white people. That doesn't tell us anything about the motivations or the failures of the people who should have responded more quickly in the aftermath.

For what its worth, I don't think it was racism that prevented Michael Brown and President Bush from acting so much as ineptitude.
that's so funny. you forget that president bush wanted to declare a state of emergency before katrina even hit. the ineptitude comment falls on the governor and/or mayor of NO if it falls on anyone but they're democrats so they can't be to blame
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bl@ck
that's so funny. you forget that president bush wanted to declare a state of emergency before katrina even hit. the ineptitude comment falls on the governor and/or mayor of NO if it falls on anyone but they're democrats so they can't be to blame
You must mean before it hit New Orleans, which is correct. I found the White House press release here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0050827-1.html

Nevertheless, the aftermath was handled badly by both Michael Brown and President Bush. The local disaster relief infrastructures were pretty well hosed, and they needed more help than they got. I acknowledge that its easier for me to criticize from the sidelines, months later, than it is to lead during a time of emergency, but isn't that why we only elect the best and brightest to lead our country?
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by benjamin
You must mean before it hit New Orleans, which is correct. I found the White House press release here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0050827-1.html

Nevertheless, the aftermath was handled badly by both Michael Brown and President Bush. The local disaster relief infrastructures were pretty well hosed, and they needed more help than they got. I acknowledge that its easier for me to criticize from the sidelines, months later, than it is to lead during a time of emergency, but isn't that why we only elect the best and brightest to lead our country?
a federal sate of emergeny wasn't declared before hand because neither the governor nor the mayor of NO wanted
to and the president didn't want to step on their toes. we can see who was on target from the start can't we.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bl@ck
a federal sate of emergeny wasn't declared before hand because neither the governor nor the mayor of NO wanted
to and the president didn't want to step on their toes. we can see who was on target from the start can't we.
Correct. President Bush tried to be proactive in this but Blanco & Nagin did not. Brownie & FEMA really botched it up themselves but by the time they came involved NO and Louisiana were already beyond help thanks to their local officials and lack of planning & preperation.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by qtiger
:rofl:



http://www.mrc.org/



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You are correct about the site I refferenced, however their statistics are taken from the government of LA. And it just goes to show the reason a site like this exists as they need to keep the MSM honest in their reporting. Afterall CBS, ABC, NBC, & CNN stated away from this like the plague.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DVPGSR
You are correct about the site I refferenced, however their statistics are taken from the government of LA. And it just goes to show the reason a site like this exists as they need to keep the MSM honest in their reporting. Afterall CBS, ABC, NBC, & CNN stated away from this like the plague.

Originally Posted by qtiger
I can't find these statistics anywhere.
I don't trust stats till I read em myself.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by qtiger
I don't trust stats till I read em myself.
that was easy enough

http://www.dhh.louisiana.gov/reports...192&Detail=207

the one dated 12/13/2005

it's amazing what you can find when you actually look
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 08:31 AM
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From the LA Times

And I would not call them conservative by any means.

The bodies of New Orleans residents killed by Hurricane Katrina were almost as likely to be recovered from middle-class neighborhoods as from the city's poorer districts, such as the Lower 9th Ward, according to a Times analysis of data released by the state of Louisiana.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Bl@ck
that was easy enough

http://www.dhh.louisiana.gov/reports...192&Detail=207

the one dated 12/13/2005

it's amazing what you can find when you actually look
that websyte haz a conservative slant!!111 no fare!!

For those who don't understand; whites died at a higher percentage per person than blacks. It is funny how the paranoid state of mind that many African Americans have that the "government is out to get them, the HIV virus was created to kill black people, and the government did not respond to Hurricane Katrina because New Orleans is a black city." It's a bullshit paranoid state of mind to live with and I do not understand why some blacks feel the need to pull out the race card so often.

The government's helpful hand to blacks is so evident that if you cannot see it, you're blind. Affirmative Action, which violates federal law by accepting alumni based on race, helps blacks out by setting a quota on the amount of black students it MUST acquire. This does not help out someone like me, a white male, who tries hard in school maintaining his 3.6 GPA while watching crowds of African Americans with 2.9 GPAs make it into their college of choice.

Not only does the government introduce Affirmative Action, but the whole set of Hate Crime laws? Purposely established to defend blacks? The statistics I found to back this: The Bureau of Justice Statistics estimates that in 1999, there were about 657,008 black-on-white crimes of violence, as compared to some 91,051 of the white-on-black variety. Yet although black-perpetrated interracial crimes outnumbered white-perpetrated interracial crimes by a ratio of about 7.2 to 1, the official hate-crime statistics showed white offenders outnumbering black offenders by a 4 to 1 margin. Put another way, about 1 out of every 45 white-on-black attacks is classified as a hate crime, while the corresponding fraction for black-on-white attacks is an astounding 1 out of 1,254. Alarming. Is it possible our judicial system and our Board of Education has a racial bias against whites? The reverse discrimination in this country seems more prevalent than ever before.

P.S. Please do not resort to any "yourrr racizt!!" retorts. I am not racist. I am simply pointing out some alarming facts that I feel need to be addressed.
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