you're kidding right?

2lbs per hp is not large move when you consider the fact that one is heavier than the other?

2lb/hp is 2lb/hp regardless of the type of car. am i missing something?

 

For the sake of piling on: I disagree

 

I am jumping on the bandwagon as well!

Huh Please explain this!

 

I understand Mike's argument. If you compare the car to others in their classes, "simply amazing" and "not much of a performer" don't really describe the two cars. He wasn't comparing the two cars to each other, but rather their competition. Obviously the Z4 will outperform the IS300 on any battlefield other than the grocery store.

But, the "simply amazing" 3.0L Z4 is a full $8000 and 2 pounds per horsepower over the S2000. (2810 lbs with 240 horsepower)

Or 2.5 pounds per horsepower and $6000 more than the 350Z Track. (3225 lbs and 287 horsepower)

Just for fun:
MR2 Spyder curb weight = 2,195
Horsepower = 138 hp @ 6,400 rpm

15.905 pounds per horsepower at a grand total of $8,000 less than the 2.5L Z4.

Bleh. The Z4 is no more of a performer than the IS300.

Honda Accord Sedan EX V6: 3360 lbs w/ 240 HP
14 lbs/hp at $4,000 less than the IS300.

Nissan Maxima GLE: 3308 lbs w/ 255 hp
12.97 lbs/hp starting $1000 less than the IS.

 

bleh is all i got.

 

:fawk:

 

I understand your point, but it sucks bro. Sorry.

Who cares if the BMW Z4 and IS300 are in different classes. Examine:

You tell me the Accord V6 is really fast, but I say "The Accord is alright...the NSX is simply amazing though".

So your argument would be that the Accord is just as fast as the NSX because they're in seperate classes, where the Accord is at the top of its class in HP/L (or close to it), but the NSX gets its ass kicked by the Porsche Turbo?

 

Good explaination bleh

That's kind of what I figured but didn't want to assume.

But you can't really compare the Z4 to the 350Z, maybe the Elipse spyder and the SLK230 but not the 350Z. The MR2 should be compared with the likes of Miata as well. Neither car are in the same league as the Z4 (as much as I dislike the Z4) which is luxury convertible.

 

What was said was equivalent to saying "The Accord is amazing, but the NSX is not a performer."

Well, the Accord isn't the hottest motor on the block either.

 

I used the MR2 because its the same type of ugly.