Honda to start supplying engines, transmissions to GM in 2003
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Originally posted by DVPGSR
I remember when this was announced a while back people on the Saturn forums were not too happy either. Most of the arguments were to the effect that they didn't want "Jap crap" in their American built cars...what they didn't know and realize was that the engines were built in America...if anything this is good for GM but I do not see the trade off in getting diesel engines for the European market from GM/Isuzu. Sure Diesels are huge in Europe, but I would think Honda would just go and design the best diesel around. Maybe that is what they are doing...using the GM/Isuzu diesel till 2005 while they build and perfect one of their own!
I remember when this was announced a while back people on the Saturn forums were not too happy either. Most of the arguments were to the effect that they didn't want "Jap crap" in their American built cars...what they didn't know and realize was that the engines were built in America...if anything this is good for GM but I do not see the trade off in getting diesel engines for the European market from GM/Isuzu. Sure Diesels are huge in Europe, but I would think Honda would just go and design the best diesel around. Maybe that is what they are doing...using the GM/Isuzu diesel till 2005 while they build and perfect one of their own!
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From: NH
Originally posted by yianni64
They have their own diesel now. It's a pretty nice one too.
They have their own diesel now. It's a pretty nice one too.
I have no doubt it is a nice diesel!
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Originally posted by DVPGSR
So then why do they have this deal for GM/Isuzu to supply diesels till 2005?
I have no doubt it is a nice diesel!
So then why do they have this deal for GM/Isuzu to supply diesels till 2005?
I have no doubt it is a nice diesel!
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Originally posted by DVPGSR
So then why do they have this deal for GM/Isuzu to supply diesels till 2005?
I have no doubt it is a nice diesel!
So then why do they have this deal for GM/Isuzu to supply diesels till 2005?
I have no doubt it is a nice diesel!
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A couple points made. In the world of Honda, you either hate them or you like them. I think crossing Saturn buyers over is a bit optimistic. They enjoy their large panel gaps and plastic doors.
And I don't think it will hurt Honda's business either. The CR-V offers a lot more than just a powertrain over Saturn's VUE. It offers a better built and ergonimcally designed interior, quieter ride, etc.
By the way, anybody read Car & Driver's review of the 2003 Saturn Ion? "This is by far the most disappointing domestic in the last ten years."
And I don't think it will hurt Honda's business either. The CR-V offers a lot more than just a powertrain over Saturn's VUE. It offers a better built and ergonimcally designed interior, quieter ride, etc.
By the way, anybody read Car & Driver's review of the 2003 Saturn Ion? "This is by far the most disappointing domestic in the last ten years."
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Originally posted by AcuraFanatic
By the way, anybody read Car & Driver's review of the 2003 Saturn Ion? "This is by far the most disappointing domestic in the last ten years."
By the way, anybody read Car & Driver's review of the 2003 Saturn Ion? "This is by far the most disappointing domestic in the last ten years."
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Well, Honda has been getting its ass kicked in Europe (they are not popular by any means there) because of their lack of diesels. I support this move fully...I think it's a real slap in the face to GM. I can't wait to see VUEs rolling down the road with POWERED BY HONDA windshield banners 
On another note, I hope we get to keep our insignias on the engine. I doubt VTEC would be taken off...unless Saturn names it whatever they want. Maybe 'SV' for 'Saturn VTEC'. Sounds like some sort of STD
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On another note, I hope we get to keep our insignias on the engine. I doubt VTEC would be taken off...unless Saturn names it whatever they want. Maybe 'SV' for 'Saturn VTEC'. Sounds like some sort of STD
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