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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by lexusis350
It would depend on how much better the self parking is on the Lexus. Lexus is only the 1st Generation which is not good. Since this self-parking system doesn't work, there is no reason to buy a Lexus and I hope they understand why they are not selling too well.

Audi would probably have the best self parking system when it comes out. Lexus made the system too complicated where 3 grown men couldn't use it. Also they need to add a feature where the car will not attempt to park in impossible places and to put itself on drive itself and drive into the parking space.
Wow, I didn't know you can see into the future. Can you please give me 6 numbers so I can retire? Bottom line is, people didn't buy the LS BECAUSE of the self parking system. It was just one of its many features. Last I check Lexus is the best selling luxury brand. So where did you get this idea that they're not selling well again?
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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the parking feature works just fine IMO. of course it will be followed by better and improved systems. give me a break.
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by lexusis350
It would depend on how much better the self parking is on the Lexus. Lexus is only the 1st Generation which is not good. Since this self-parking system doesn't work, there is no reason to buy a Lexus and I hope they understand why they are not selling too well.

Audi would probably have the best self parking system when it comes out. Lexus made the system too complicated where 3 grown men couldn't use it. Also they need to add a feature where the car will not attempt to park in impossible places and to put itself on drive itself and drive into the parking space.
You are so full of shit I'm amazed you can even see where you're going.

A cursory glance at the sale records shows that Lexus is doing just fine, with or without this new Parking Assist program.

EDIT: Here's their 2005 Annual Sales Report , as released by Toyota USA
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...04/205039.html
[spoiler="Full Text"] Toyota Reports 2005 and December Sales

TORRANCE, Calif., Jan. 4, 2006 --

Toyota Motor Sales (TMS), U.S.A., Inc., today reported total year-end sales of 2,260,296 vehicles, up 10.1 percent over 2004. With ten consecutive years of record-breaking sales, this marks the second time in TMS' 48-year history it has reached sales of over two million vehicles.


"Finally shaking off its Autumn chill, the industry enjoyed a bit of holiday cheer as buyers returned to showrooms," said Jim Press, TMS President and COO. "Solid calendar-year results vouch for the industry's fundamental health and bode well for the coming year."


Camry became the best-selling car in America for the fourth year in a row and eighth time in the past nine years. Lexus retained its crown as the best- selling luxury brand in America for the sixth consecutive year, selling a total of 302,895 units in 2005. With overall sales of 156,485 units, Scion was a significant contributor to the record sales year.


Total TMS sales for December were a best-ever of 203,279, an increase of 8.2 percent over the same period last year.


Toyota Division
The Toyota Division recorded best-ever year-end total sales of 1,957,401 vehicles, up 10.8 percent.


The Toyota Division recorded best-ever year-end passenger car sales of 1,138,130 units, an increase of 18.3 percent, and December sales of 88,887, up 8.1 percent. Camry posted year-end sales of 431,703, an increase of 1.4 percent. Corolla posted year-end sales of 341,290 units, an increase of 2.8 percent.


The Prius gas-electric hybrid posted best-ever December sales of 9,027 units, an increase of 43.6 percent over the same period last year. Year-end Prius sales reached 107,897 units, up 100.5 percent over 2004.


Scion reported best-ever December sales with 12,457 units sold. The Scion xB urban utility vehicle recorded a best-ever December with 4,341 units, up 13.4 percent, with year-end sales totaling 54,037, an increase of 15.3 percent over 2004. The tC sports coupe had a best-ever December of 5,724 units sold, with year-end sales reaching 74,415 units, an increase of 166.0 percent over 2004. The xA subcompact posted a best-ever December with 2,392 units sold, an increase of 19.6 percent; xA year-end sales reached 28,033 units, up 16.3 percent from last year.


The Toyota Division recorded all-time best-ever year-end light-truck sales with 819,271 units, an increase of 1.8 percent. Toyota Division light trucks also posted all-time best-ever December sales of 79,206, up 8.1 percent over the same period last year. The Highlander Hybrid gas-electric mid-size SUV, which launched in early June, reported sales of 2,198 units in December and year-end sales of 17,989 units. The Highlander and Highlander Hybrid posted combined December sales of 11,309 units.
Contributing to the light-truck sales record was the Tundra full-size pickup truck with all-time best-ever December sales of 15,632 units, up 33.4 percent. Year-end Tundra sales were 126,529 units, up 12.9 percent over last year.


Lexus Division
With record-breaking 2005 annual sales, Lexus retains its title as America's top-selling luxury brand for the sixth consecutive year. The automaker today reported total year-end sales of 302,895 units, up 5.5 percent over last year's record-breaking sales. Lexus also scored an all-time, best- ever month with 35,186 units sold.


Lexus luxury utility vehicles enjoyed a strong sales year, at 151,669 units. The 2006 RX 400h luxury hybrid SUV reported December sales of 2,172 units and year-end sales of 20,674 units. The RX 330 and RX 400h posted combined year-end sales of 108,775 units. The GX 470 mid-size luxury utility vehicle recorded an all-time best-ever sales month of 4,599 units, a 4.4- percent increase over last year.


Sales of Lexus passenger cars also achieved year-end all-time record breaking results with 151,226 units, an increase of 11.5 percent. The best- ever year-end combined sales of the GS 300 and GS 430, mid-luxury sports sedans, totaled 33,457 units sold.


December passenger car sales also achieved best-ever results of 17,866 units, an increase of 25 percent over the same period last year. For the month, the GS 300 sedan led the way with 2,973 units, an all-time, best-ever sales month, and a 305-percent increase over the same period last year. The GS 430 reported sales of 458 units, a 349-percent increase over last December and the IS 300/IS 350 reported combined all-time best-ever December sales of 4,518 units, a 573.3-percent increase over last year's December. The IS 250 reported sales of 2,877, and the IS 350 had sales of 1,631 units.


Total TMS sales of North American-built vehicles totaled 1,393,100 units, representing 61.6 percent of the total vehicles sold in 2005. There were 307 selling days in 2005, as compared to 308 in 2004.
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TOYOTA RETAIL SALES
(INCLUDES FLEET & HAWAII)
December, 2005

----- CURRENT MONTH ---- -- CALENDAR YEAR TO DATE --
DSR % DSR %

2005 2004 CHG 2005 2004 CHG
ECHO 14 306 -95.4 1,544 3,899 -60.3
COROLLA 25,276 26,408 -4.3 341,290 333,161 2.8
CELICA 11 494 -97.8 3,113 8,710 -64.1
CAMRY 33,324 35,032 -4.9 431,703 426,990 1.4
AVALON 8,778 2,876 205.2 95,318 36,460 162.3
MR2 SPYDER 0 121 -100.0 780 2,621 -70.1
PRIUS 9,027 6,287 43.6 107,897 53,991 100.5
SCION xA 2,392 2,000 19.6 28,033 24,184 16.3
SCION xB 4,341 3,827 13.4 54,037 47,013 15.3
SCION tC 5,724 4,859 17.8 74,415 28,062 166.0
TOTAL TOYOTA
DIV. PASS. CAR 88,887 82,210 8.1 1,138,130 965,091 18.3

ES 330 6,770 8,496 -20.3 67,577 75,916 -10.7
LS 430 2,320 3,460 -32.9 26,043 32,272 -19.0
SC 430 827 829 -0.2 8,360 9,708 -13.6
GS 300 2,973 734 305.0 27,807 6,914 303.5
GS 430 458 102 349.0 5,650 1,348 320.5
IS 300 4,518 671 573.3 15,789 9,972 58.8
TOTAL LEXUS
PASS. CAR 17,866 14,292 25.0 151,226 136,130 11.5

TOTAL TOYOTA
PASS. CAR 106,753 96,502 10.6 1,289,356 1,101,221 17.5
SIENNA 15,115 12,423 21.7 161,380 159,119 1.8
RAV4 5,195 5,430 -4.3 70,518 70,314 0.6
4RUNNER 10,798 11,617 -7.1 103,830 114,212 -8.8
HIGHLANDER 11,309 12,391 -8.7 137,409 133,077 3.6
LAND CRUISER 464 819 -43.3 4,870 6,778 -27.9
SEQUOIA 5,340 7,286 -26.7 45,904 58,114 -20.8
TOTAL SUV 33,106 37,543 -11.8 362,531 382,495 -4.9
4X2 TACOMA 9,019 6,461 39.6 100,568 91,305 10.5
4X4 TACOMA 6,334 5,094 24.3 68,263 61,628 11.1
TOTAL TACOMA 15,353 11,555 32.9 168,831 152,933 10.8
TUNDRA 15,632 11,720 33.4 126,529 112,484 12.9
TOTAL PICKUP 30,985 23,275 33.1 295,360 265,417 11.6

TOTAL TOYOTA
DIV. LT TRUCK 79,206 73,241 8.1 819,271 807,031 1.8
LX 470 947 1,415 -33.1 8,555 9,846 -12.8
GX 470 4,599 4,407 4.4 34,339 35,420 -2.7
RX 330/400h 11,774 12,367 -4.8 108,775 106,531 2.4

TOTAL LEXUS
LIGHT TRUCK 17,320 18,189 -4.8 151,669 151,797 0.2
TOTAL TOYOTA
LIGHT TRUCK 96,526 91,430 5.6 970,940 958,828 1.6
TOTAL TOYOTA
DIV. 168,093 155,451 8.1 1,957,401 1,772,122 10.8
TOTAL LEXUS 35,186 32,481 8.3 302,895 287,927 5.5
TOTAL TOYOTA 203,279 187,932 8.2 2,260,296 2,060,049 10.1
MEMO:
DOM. COROLLA 24,544 24,671 -0.5 330,782 311,216 6.6
DOM. CAMRY 29,775 34,200 -12.9 402,887 406,224 -0.5
DOM. PICKUP 30,985 23,275 33.1 295,360 265,417 11.6
DOM. RX 330 1,047 7,015 -85.1 61,469 61,350 0.5

SELLING DAYS 27 27 307 308

TOYOTA DIV.
IMPORT CAR 25,790 20,463 26.0 309,143 211,191 46.9
LEXUS IMPORT
CAR 17,866 14,292 25.0 151,226 136,130 11.5
TOYOTA DIV NA
BUILT CARS 63,097 61,747 2.2 828,987 753,900 10.3
TOTAL TOYOTA
CARS 106,753 96,502 10.6 1,289,356 1,101,221 17.5

TOYOTA DIV.
IMPORT LT
TRUCK 27,766 30,257 -8.2 316,627 324,381 -2.1
LEXUS IMPORT
LT TRUCK 16,273 11,174 45.6 90,200 90,447 0.1
TOYOTA DIV NA
BUILT LT TRUCK 51,440 42,984 19.7 502,644 482,650 4.5
LEXUS NA BUILT
LT TRUCK 1,047 7,015 -85.1 61,469 61,350 0.5
TOTAL TOYOTA
LT TRUCK 96,526 91,430 5.6 970,940 958,828 1.6

SPORT UTILITY
VEHICLES 50,426 55,732 -9.5 514,200 534,292 -3.4
Memo: Lexus
Sport Utility 17,320 18,189 -4.8 151,669 151,797 0.2

SMALL VANS 15,115 12,423 21.7 161,380 159,119 1.8
PICKUPS 30,985 23,275 33.1 295,360 265,417 11.6

* NORTH AMERICAN
BUILT VEHICLES
COROLLA 24,544 24,671 -0.5 330,782 311,216 6.6
CAMRY 29,775 34,200 -12.9 402,887 406,224 -0.5
AVALON 8,778 2,876 205.2 95,318 36,460 162.3
SIENNA 15,115 12,423 21.7 161,380 159,119 1.8
PICKUP 30,985 23,275 33.1 295,360 265,417 11.6
SEQUOIA 5,340 7,286 -26.7 45,904 58,114 -20.8
RX 330 1,047 7,015 -85.1 61,469 61,350 0.5
TOTAL 115,584 111,746 3.4 1,393,100 1,297,900 7.7
N.A. VEHICLES
% OF TOTAL 56.9% 59.5% 61.6% 63.0%

SELLING DAYS 27 27 307 308
DSR = DAILY SELLING RATE
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By the way.. have you driven the LS and tried the Parking Assist yourself?

If not, sit down and shut up.
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TheOtherDave™

By the way.. have you driven the LS and tried the Parking Assist yourself?

If not, sit down and shut up.
even the simplest of systems would be too complex for him h:
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by lexusis350
It would depend on how much better the self parking is on the Lexus. Lexus is only the 1st Generation which is not good. Since this self-parking system doesn't work, there is no reason to buy a Lexus and I hope they understand why they are not selling too well.

Audi would probably have the best self parking system when it comes out. Lexus made the system too complicated where 3 grown men couldn't use it. Also they need to add a feature where the car will not attempt to park in impossible places and to put itself on drive itself and drive into the parking space.
do you never learn anything? did you not click on the links i posted, or did you just sweep them under the moldy rug that is your subconscious? did you not realize and acknowledge that that automobile magazine video was severly exaggerated? if you haven't READ THE OWNER'S MANUAL and like TheOtherDave said, used the system for YOURSELF, then you need to STFU.

your profile says you were born in 1978. that's funny, and a little sad, because you have the mind of an eleven year old.

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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TheOtherDave™
EDIT: Here's their 2005 Annual Sales Report , as released by Toyota USA
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...04/205039.html
call it a hunch, but I don't think he's going to be able to decipher those stats. lets simplify a little: october, 2006 sales of the Lexus LS are 33.2% higher than the same period last year. They sold 2,097 of them last month, which is more than the 7-series and A8 combined, and only a little less than the S-class. Acura's closest competitor (although it doesn't even compete with any of those cars), the RL, is down 33.8%, having only sold 987 last month.

Originally Posted by Samson
even the simplest of systems would be too complex for him h:
:chuckles: i think the only toyota that would be good enough for him is one that drives itself while you lie back and sleep, never needs fixing, and magically replenishes its tires, brakes, battery, and fluids. just like any honda :lmao:
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 04:39 AM
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I think it's time our resident Toyota basher takes a nice long vacation. All agreed?
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 04:51 AM
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I just check the links you posted mayonaise and they all show how to use the parking system. So I guess those 3 guys really didn't read the manual so didn't know how to use it.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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The reason that the LS got the self parking feature is because it is a new technology. All the top line luxury cars get these technologies and then filter them down to the lower models as prices drop. HID headlights were first introduced on top end luxury cars first, then their lower siblings in the lineup. now that HID technology is cheaper it is ending up in lower line cars like Altimas and Mazda 3s. Lexus was the first to market with this technology and placed it in their flagship car, just like Acura put the SH-AWD in the RL. Let's not beat them up for not having a perfect technology the way we want it right off the bat. It is something new and like everything will improve in time.
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DVPGSR
The reason that the LS got the self parking feature is because it is a new technology. All the top line luxury cars get these technologies and then filter them down to the lower models as prices drop. HID headlights were first introduced on top end luxury cars first, then their lower siblings in the lineup. now that HID technology is cheaper it is ending up in lower line cars like Altimas and Mazda 3s. Lexus was the first to market with this technology and placed it in their flagship car, just like Acura put the SH-AWD in the RL. Let's not beat them up for not having a perfect technology the way we want it right off the bat. It is something new and like everything will improve in time.
Exactly. There was a time when vaccum tubes were cutting edge technology.

Time only improves it and makes the technology cheaper.
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