In any of those new Ford commercials, Bill Ford reminds me a lot of George W. Bush.

But the thing is, you care about auto-cross and what not. People dont buy cars with racing them in mind, they buy them for a daily driver. 95% of people who are looking at a mustang or an accord coupe dont even know what autocross is. Since I dont plan on doing auto-cross, much less street racing, the Accord is a better car for me, as for a lot of other people.

As for the 6spd V6 Accord, from what I understand those are very good tires, very sticky and un-Honda like.

Also RavenLude, I see GT's run low 14's.

 

In our day and age, as wrong as it might be, "race" does mean a straight line. How pathetic eh?

As for the P.S., your assuming a ****ty driver for the S2000? A S2000 that is launched well will beat a stickshift Altima 3.5SE. I dont know, same mag, so I'd assume similar technics or what not. But if the temp/humidity/altitude etc etc was messed up, then you could very well be right.

Obtained from MT September, 2001
0-60: 6.3 Transmission: Manual
1/4 Mile: 14.7
1/4 Speed: 97

Obtained from MT February, 2000
0-60: 5.2 Transmission: Manual
1/4 Mile: 13.8
1/4 Speed: 100

 

I've been thinking about some arguements on behalf of the Mustang, and I began to think..... Mustang GT with 260 hp, and Accord EX V6 with 240, right? Think again.... Honda quoted the hp using regular 87 octane. HOWEVER, I'm sure some of you already know the secret is out that using 92 and up octane will yield 250 hp. Considering the Accord has better aerodynamics, weighs less, and has a closer ratio 6 speed transmission over a Mustang GT, I think this edition of Accord will hang very well with a GT. Consider this..... the Acura CL-S 6 speed WILL beat a GT Mustang. 260 hp out of 3.0 liter V6, versus a 4.6 V8. And I just don't get this "useable power" deal.... chances are, if someone owns one of these cars, they know how to drive it. Drop clutch at 5,000 rpm, shift at redline, and you CAN beat a Mustang GT off the line, which looses power by 5,000 rpm. In the end, if you know how to drive a VTEC powered engine with a manual transmission, there really are not as many cars which can beat you, as some may think. It's only because they don't know how to drive a Prelude, CL-S, the new Accord V6 6 speed, Integra GSR or Type R, RSX-S, and the like. I tell people who think my car is just another rice burner to drive one for a week and they will never say that again.

 

Come on, are you serious? RWD plus loads of low-end power to exit corners quickly versus a peaky-by-comparison FWD car that's too softly sprung?
Don't compare magazine times. I have witnessed a stock Altima run a stock S2000 and the S2000 got its ass handed to it.
Think for a second here. How many times have I said to stop talking about drag racing? Of course from a standing start you can pick your RPM. I'm talking about when you're exiting a slow 2nd-gear corner and stomp on the gas. Low-end power gets you up to speed faster.
I had a GSR, I know how to drive it. It's not a good stoplight-drag car. No power down low. Useable power means that when I'm exiting a slow 2nd-gear corner there's power available without waiting for the revs to climb back up to 5000.
Typical comment from the car-as-extension-of-ego set. Blah. I don't understand why people get their panties in a wad when someone talks a little trash. You don't need to go on an epic quest to prove the legitimacy of VTEC or some nonsense which you probably rant about at the local Starbucks.

 

How slow of a corner are you talking about, because if I am going under 30 mph, I can hold first, then as I exit, hit the gas and get to the power just as fast if not faster than a Mustang can in second gear. Perhaps you forgot that these engines move up in rpm's alot faster than most engines. Yes, in a Mustang you'd need to keep it in second, because if you left it in first you'd blow a head gasket or something. Believe me, I know how to keep the rpm's where they need to be. An S2000 with a good gear technique will leave a Camaro Z28 in the dust out of a corner.

 

Quit talking out of your ass. Read up.

http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caran...ture_s2000.xml

 

Why is it that none of you Crustang fans are comparing other categories of 03 Accord vs. Crustang. The only thing that is being compared is performance.
If you want a car that after 36 months only retains about 45% of the value spent (Crustang) vs. the Accords 68% residual.
Or how about luxury . . . the Crustang does not have any.
And just remember the Mustang will always be a Crustang that is only good for straightline acceleration . . . which in my book is called one dimensional. The Accord will always be a all around good performing mid-sized coupe/sedan, the most reliabile/dependable car on the road, the best value in its market, and a perrennial best seller.

Only hardcore narrowminded domestic fans would buy an automobile based on 0-60 and 1/4 times alone. Instead of posting this type of bull**** why don't you go watch NASCAR and get dizzy seeing cars make four left turns hour after hour.

 

O.K. Put the S2000 up against a Cobra, and yes, it lags behind a bit. BUT, Cobras are overpriced, anyway, so you pay $40,000 for a car worth 30 grand at best, whereas you pay 32 grand for a car worth 32 grand in the S2000. I've been talking about the GT Mustang, not a Cobra (of which only about 5,000 will be made this year and 3 times as many will be made of the S2000) I see an S2000 on the street now at least once a week. I have yet to see a new Cobra, and see very few older Cobras, so there is that factor you must keep in consideration that we are talking about everyday vehicles. Hell, an Acura NSX is alot better as an every day vehicle than a Cobra. Just talk to some people who own them. As for that snip from C/D, the cars were CLOSE to stock, but they weren't 100% stock. I don't care if the only thing you change are the tires, it's not stock. And I think that's the key in this. I'm not saying Hondas are the best at everything, but they do better than you think. Think about this: my boss owns a 1979 Trans Am with a 403 and an automatic. Ever since I bought my Prelude he's been busting my you know what's. So finally, last week I told him I'd be willing to race for some beers and he turned me down and hasn't talked about it since. Now, neither myself or my car is intimidating, but I just don't think he likes to race people he doesn't know for sure if he'd beat them.

 

Ya'll are getting a bit off topic here.

Bottom line, I'd take a 2003 V6 6-spd accord over any of those cars yall listed. Well, expcept the S2000

 

Sorry about that. Yeah, I'm already scouting the dealerships for the six speed.... none available untill probably October or Jan. of next year at the latest, but I've got the radar out for it. I did see an LX sedan today..... VERY high quality feel, the doors are BMW like, and I love the instrument cluster's backlit LEDs. It really felt like I was sitting in a $30,000 car.