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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 12:49 AM
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Default 1992 Acura Integra LS

MY teg's engine is now dead...
I had a regular LS engine, 1.8L and I was wondering if I would encounter any problems, or if I needed ANYTHING NEW, if I were to put in a B16A1. I found this engine at www.streetimports.com
for $1399+shipping:

160HP JDM B16A1
1595cc (1.6L) DOHC VTEC
160hp/112tr
10.2 Compression Ratio
Cable Transmission
Includes:Engine,ECU, Clutch & Transmission

So my main questions are, will this engine fit? Is this the best engine for my money?(im not trying to go all hot rod, i just need a new engine and i'd rather have a 160hp vtec than a 130hp non vtec) Is it safe to purchase off this site?(Or any other internet sites for that matter?)How much is shipping usually, (How many dollars per mile) Which site would YOU recommend?
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 02:57 AM
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Here is what Mr. Dan Platt would say about that:

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1992-1993 Integra:

Engine: B18A1
Displacement: 1834cc
Compression Ratio: 9.2:1
Hp/Torque: 140hp@6000rpm/121lb-ft@5000rpm
Transmission: USDM YS1 (cable)

Recommended Swaps:
Engine: 1988-1991 JDM B16A
Displacement: 1595cc
Compression Ratio: 10.2:1
Hp/Torque: 160hp@7600rpm/112lb-ft@7000rpm
Transmission: JDM S1, J1, Y1, A1 (cable)

This is a non-OBD engine from 88-91 JDM vehicles (Integras, Civics). As you can plainly see, this motor has 30 more hp which is a considerable increase. Your torque takes a hit being 9lb-ft less that your B18a, but many people agree that the loss is worth it. Also, you get the high revving characteristics of a VTEC motor. This engine pretty much drops right in and is a great choice. This engine uses the non-OBD cream colored plugs unlike your OBD-1 B18A (gray plugs), so there are some issues we’ll come to later. Many first generation B16a engine packages can be purchased for $1000-$1500 depending on where you look. These motors from Japan will usually only have 40,000 miles or less on them. Everything on this motor is compatible. These are the only items of concern with this swap:

· Wiring harness-The non-OBD B16A harness has the cream colored plugs, which will not work with your OBD-1 gray plug car. So you will need to use your gray plug harness from your B18A1 or buy an OBD-1 (gray plug) VTEC harness (92-95 B17A, Del Sol B16A, B18C1). Any one of these harnesses will plug into everything on the motor except for the distributor and injectors. If you use your B18A1 harness, you will need to add the 3 wires for VTEC, and another wire for the knock sensor.
· Motor mounts-As long as this motor came from an Integra XSI, the mounts are the same. Otherwise you can use your existing B18A mounts
· Distributor- You cannot use the non-OBD B16A distributor. Instead you will have to buy an OBD-1 VTEC distributor (92-95 B17A, Del Sol B16A, B18C1). These cost anywhere from $150-$250. You can use your OBD-1 B18A1 distributor, but the leg towards the front of the car has to be cut off to allow clearance for the VTEC purge assembly. You will only have two bolts holding your distributor, but that is adequate.
· Injectors-You cannot use the non-OBD injectors because they use the cream colored plugs. You will need to swap over your existing OBD-1 B18A1 injectors to use with your gray plug OBD-1 harness.
· ECU-Usually a PR3 or PW0 ECU is included with this motor package. Again, you cannot use the non-OBD ECU’s. Instead you will need to buy an OBD-1 VTEC ECU (P28, P30, P61, P72). Any of these ECU’s will plug right into your car and run the B16A perfectly.
· Transmission-All B-series cable transmissions are interchangeable. However, I do recommend that you get a short-geared JDM YS1 or G2 GSR YS1 cable transmission to run with the B16A motor (better for VTEC). You can use the short geared S1 or Y1 cable transmission that is usually included with these motors, but you will need to use a 90-91 clutch assembly because the input shaft splines for the 90-91 transmissions are smaller in diameter than the 92-up transmissions.
· Clutch-Depending on what transmission you use will determine what clutch you use. If you use an 92-93 transmission, you can either use your existing or a new 92-93 clutch. If you use a 88-91 transmission, you will need to use a 90-91 Integra clutch.

Below are things that I recommend doing while your motor is out and before you drop your B16A in:

· Replace the water pump & thermostat
· Replace the timing belt and timing belt tensioner
· Replace Cap, Rotor, and Spark plugs
· Adjust valves
· Replace cam end plug
· Replace valve cover gasket and spark plug seals
· Replace fuel filter
· Replace PCV valve
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 02:02 PM
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thank you very much, this reply has been very helpfull. now all i need is to find a decent b16.

and im not really sure where to look...was the 1399 dollars plus shipping a reasonable price for this engine?
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 02:41 PM
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hmotorsonline.com has that for $1150 (but are sold out). They also have 92-93 XSi swaps (in stock) for $1800, I don't know why they want so much for the OBD-1 XSi version. For that much you could get an SiR-II swap, but then you would need a cable transaxle.

I personally wouldn't go from the B18A1 to the B16A. The horsepower gain is not worth the torque loss to me.
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 03:04 PM
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true, but i have yet to find a b18 motor. where would i find one?

how much are they? etc.
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 03:23 PM
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Default Re: 1992 Acura Integra LS

Originally posted by extasm
MY teg's engine is now dead...
I had a regular LS engine, 1.8L and I was wondering if I would encounter any problems, or if I needed ANYTHING NEW, if I were to put in a B16A1. I found this engine at www.streetimports.com
for $1399+shipping:

160HP JDM B16A1
1595cc (1.6L) DOHC VTEC
160hp/112tr
10.2 Compression Ratio
Cable Transmission
Includes:Engine,ECU, Clutch & Transmission

So my main questions are, will this engine fit? Is this the best engine for my money?(im not trying to go all hot rod, i just need a new engine and i'd rather have a 160hp vtec than a 130hp non vtec) Is it safe to purchase off this site?(Or any other internet sites for that matter?)How much is shipping usually, (How many dollars per mile) Which site would YOU recommend?
join the club . mine has been dead for 2 months.
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 03:25 PM
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i got a b18a sitting in my wrecked teg with good compression and great running, well, everything, just has no spark plug wires and no tranny, also has 142k on it tho...
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by extasm
true, but i have yet to find a b18 motor. where would i find one?
Junkyards, thepartstrader.com, g2ic.com, here, hmotorsonline.com, etc.
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