Super Charging the R
With the money I have, I'm thinking of putting Jackson Racing SuperCharger in. I find this less hassle than a turbo, and good bang for the buck. anyone else done this?
pros and cons?
pros and cons?
Make sure to do it right. Get some good engine management, good header(Kamikaze) works well w/ JRSC & VSC and look into alcohol injection to keep temps down so you can still keep some timing in it. As long as your goals are 270-300whp this kit will be fun.
Get some good engine management, good header(Kamikaze) works well w/ JRSC & VSC and look into alcohol injection to keep temps down so you can still keep some timing in it
get a fuel managment unit. with 8:1 = for every 1 psi boost u get 8 extra psi fuel pressure. get a decent set of competch headers for the "R" are really good but can get pricey and get some bigger injector 310cc RC injectors will be perfect for the lower boost u will get from the supercharger. thats all u need my buddy had that set up and he rank mid 12's at the track.
im thinking about the jrsc too. most people i've talked to dont like jackson racing because on stock internals with just a few bolt ons, its puts down about 215-225 whp. but they make a high boost system with 3 different boost pulleys, a hondata which can handle up to 12 psi, and 440cc injectors. sounds pretty sweet.. check it out.
http://www.jacksonracing.com/Shop/Vi...eIndexID=38961
http://www.jacksonracing.com/Shop/Vi...eIndexID=38961
dont listen to any of the responses that have been made so far
i actually have an ITR with the JRSC
so i can comment first hand
it is in no way easier than a turbo, very common misconseption
i bought the JRSC with their fuel pump, spark plugs, therm, FPR, map controller...a bunch of little extras
put it all in the stock ITR and it dynoned 191 whp from its stock 165
jackson lies on their web site. they dyno their ITR with 100 octane fuel thats how they get their 215whp at 5.5 psi on a stock ITR
my itr with all the same mods as they had on their car was making 191whp, and was detonating like a bitch
the JRSC was professionally installed, everything (timing) was perfect, running 93 octane mobile fuel, full syn oil
jackson racing pisses me off
not only that, but until you tune the car with something like hondata, your 1/4 times dont really improve because detonation owns you
at 165whp(stock) i pulled a 14.72 @ 94 which is good for a stock ITR
at 191whp(un-tuned JRSC 5.5psi) i pulled a 14.6 @ 96
anyone who thinks you can run 12's with the JRSC without SERIOUS mods is a ****ing moron! TRUST ME! Jackson knows me very well by now, because i yell at them constantly on the phone for being assholes
reason for such a low 1/4 after JRSC is because the car loses its top end when you just slap the JRSC on and not tune it
the car had way more torque (stock clutch doesnt like it much either)
but top end would die out, and you cant hear your vtec at all anymore after the JRSC install (which is normal)
after only cutting a tenth off my 1/4 i was ****ing pissed, the JRSC is expensive and it was running like ass
so dont believe the website
in order to PROPERLY run the JRSC, my current setup is this:
JRSC stage 2 with Hondata, 8psi, 440CC injectors (injectors are essential)
AEM short ram with BIG K&N filter (works better on a JRSC than a CAI)
JDM 4-1 DC HEADER 2.5 inch
carsound 2.5 inch cat
T1R 2.5 inch catback (exhaust,cat and header is needed for increased flow)
JR spark plugs, therm, FPR, map controller, and fuel pump
Action 2MD 6 puck clutch (i ate the stock clutch with the JRSC like butter)
TODA flywheel (7.9 lbs, helped a lot)
ES motor mounts (can you say goodbye wheel hop?)
drag radials to hook up at the track (trust me on this one, JRSC = no traction)
this is the important stuff (hondata is essential for detonation problem, if you dont do it then get water injection and a vafc), i have quite a few more mods, but i wont list everything right now, as long as you know the important ones...
and im not talking out my ass
if you dont believe anything ive said, go slap the un-tuned JRSC on your car like JR says you can and jump on the dyno...you will want to cry
this was a very costly project
i wish i could go back to being stock and take a different route
i will be heading to the dyno in a month or so to see current power with the CORRECT equipment. im predicting around 250whp
but you never know, jackson has let me down already once with the 191whp dyno run, on the same dyno that i got a 165whp run on stock
PM me for more info, i dont want to see anyone else have to go through the same CHAOS that i did
goodluck
i actually have an ITR with the JRSC
so i can comment first hand
it is in no way easier than a turbo, very common misconseption
i bought the JRSC with their fuel pump, spark plugs, therm, FPR, map controller...a bunch of little extras
put it all in the stock ITR and it dynoned 191 whp from its stock 165
jackson lies on their web site. they dyno their ITR with 100 octane fuel thats how they get their 215whp at 5.5 psi on a stock ITR
my itr with all the same mods as they had on their car was making 191whp, and was detonating like a bitch
the JRSC was professionally installed, everything (timing) was perfect, running 93 octane mobile fuel, full syn oil
jackson racing pisses me off
not only that, but until you tune the car with something like hondata, your 1/4 times dont really improve because detonation owns you
at 165whp(stock) i pulled a 14.72 @ 94 which is good for a stock ITR
at 191whp(un-tuned JRSC 5.5psi) i pulled a 14.6 @ 96
anyone who thinks you can run 12's with the JRSC without SERIOUS mods is a ****ing moron! TRUST ME! Jackson knows me very well by now, because i yell at them constantly on the phone for being assholes
reason for such a low 1/4 after JRSC is because the car loses its top end when you just slap the JRSC on and not tune it
the car had way more torque (stock clutch doesnt like it much either)
but top end would die out, and you cant hear your vtec at all anymore after the JRSC install (which is normal)
after only cutting a tenth off my 1/4 i was ****ing pissed, the JRSC is expensive and it was running like ass
so dont believe the website
in order to PROPERLY run the JRSC, my current setup is this:
JRSC stage 2 with Hondata, 8psi, 440CC injectors (injectors are essential)
AEM short ram with BIG K&N filter (works better on a JRSC than a CAI)
JDM 4-1 DC HEADER 2.5 inch
carsound 2.5 inch cat
T1R 2.5 inch catback (exhaust,cat and header is needed for increased flow)
JR spark plugs, therm, FPR, map controller, and fuel pump
Action 2MD 6 puck clutch (i ate the stock clutch with the JRSC like butter)
TODA flywheel (7.9 lbs, helped a lot)
ES motor mounts (can you say goodbye wheel hop?)
drag radials to hook up at the track (trust me on this one, JRSC = no traction)
this is the important stuff (hondata is essential for detonation problem, if you dont do it then get water injection and a vafc), i have quite a few more mods, but i wont list everything right now, as long as you know the important ones...
and im not talking out my ass
if you dont believe anything ive said, go slap the un-tuned JRSC on your car like JR says you can and jump on the dyno...you will want to cry
this was a very costly project
i wish i could go back to being stock and take a different route
i will be heading to the dyno in a month or so to see current power with the CORRECT equipment. im predicting around 250whp
but you never know, jackson has let me down already once with the 191whp dyno run, on the same dyno that i got a 165whp run on stock
PM me for more info, i dont want to see anyone else have to go through the same CHAOS that i did
goodluck
i guess this is why most people try to stay all motor with hondas.
although, i have a friend who works for (i forget which car company, possibly mitsubishi or nissan, i'll ask him next time i see him), and he says even the stock turbo cars come back with problems all the time.
i'll take this into consideration. perhaps staying all motor is easier.
although, i have a friend who works for (i forget which car company, possibly mitsubishi or nissan, i'll ask him next time i see him), and he says even the stock turbo cars come back with problems all the time.
i'll take this into consideration. perhaps staying all motor is easier.
inline pro head gasket will cure pretty much any detonation you might have because it drops static compression about 1 full point.
I used it on my turbo motor for over 2 years with no issues. I ran 17psi on race/pump mix and 15psi daily on this motor and it was a bone stock ITR block with 92k miles on it.
I say turbo it. I actually have a FMU fuel system for sale if you need it cheap all you will need is a fuel pump. people say it doesn't work but it will hold 400-500whp on a stock block with the head gasket above. this has been proven by inline pro. the fuel set up I used is 450cc injectors, afc, FMU, missing link and 255lph pump. timing was at 13 degrees at the distrib.
ps- don't run RC injectors. they are pintal type injectors with horrible spray patterns and sometimes the pintals stick and make you either run rich or lean and either is bad
I used it on my turbo motor for over 2 years with no issues. I ran 17psi on race/pump mix and 15psi daily on this motor and it was a bone stock ITR block with 92k miles on it.
I say turbo it. I actually have a FMU fuel system for sale if you need it cheap all you will need is a fuel pump. people say it doesn't work but it will hold 400-500whp on a stock block with the head gasket above. this has been proven by inline pro. the fuel set up I used is 450cc injectors, afc, FMU, missing link and 255lph pump. timing was at 13 degrees at the distrib.
ps- don't run RC injectors. they are pintal type injectors with horrible spray patterns and sometimes the pintals stick and make you either run rich or lean and either is bad
i have a gsr w/ itr ecu and i ran 14.6 on the 1/4 mile with only a skunk2 manifold and headers and shortram intake. then i purchased a jrsc and ran 13.4 1/4 with the 8 psi. know i got the 10psi pulley and im getting it into the 12's, fastest was 12.8 one time only but 12.9-13.1 is pretty much where im at. using lenso wheels M/T tires and race fuel C16


