Also depends on how the car was broken in. Although the Rated Hp is only 2 hp as you say the Whp is a bigger difference for some reason. Maybe it's the emmission control? Who knows. All I know is that average Hp posted on these Web forums are (for USDM) around 168 hp which you also confirm with yours. I have a 98 spec, BONE STOCK, JDM type R engine and it gets 178 whp.

The rated Hp must not mean too much since all USDM Type R's are rated at 195 and by your own statement you say they range from 155-170 that's a whole 15 hp range. :lol:

 

yes it is. But then again, the dyno makes a huge difference. Some dynos here will dyno the same car on the same day with a 10-15whp difference. Dynos are only useful for some tuning and comparisons on the same dyno, same day, about the same time, under controlled conditions.

 

HELL YES, finally someone else who understands. Stop waxing the damn thing and get out there and DRIVE.

By the way George, you word yourself very well, especially when it comes to putting words to a somewhat indescribable emotion, such as how it feels to have this crazy love for the ITR. Just a compliment.

 

Well, I've come to the conclusion that, despite the noise etc., I still love the Type R. However, I also found a 1999 GS-R with 57k miles for $12.500...so I think I may just end up getting a GS-R since that price leaves me needing about a $3500 loan instead of a $10000-12000 loan. I'm sure you guys can guess why that'd be attractive

As a backup I found a 2000 with 20k miles on it for 16k and it's barely been used. I guess that's what happens when someone buys it as a second car. The lady's husband just goes in the garage and spruces it up when he's bored. They've put a whopping 3000 miles on it in the year they've owned it. Anyhow, they're selling it because the guy got a boat...which I found amusing.

Thanks for your help guys

 

if i were you, i would get the ITR. No other integra compares hands down!!

 

Get the damn ARRrrrrrrr.

You can have luxary when you die! :twisted:

 

Well I saw the 12.500 GS-R today. It was in good shape...unfortunately I'm "second in line" as far as buyers go for it.

I also went and looked at the $17k car. It was immaculate except for it had 2 inch exhaust plumbing all the way through...and the 2 inch bore muffler at the end. Coupled with some outrageously large CAI...the kind that seems to go all the way to near the bottom of the car...it had sort of that farty sound at hard throttle. I don't see why people get those huge intakes, I can't imagine it helping the performance of the car since the thing is so damn long. Anyhow, the guy seemed to be obsessive compulsive about keeping things in good condition. His entire house, garage, and pavement around his house was clean and primped. It was sorta surreal in a way. He also had a go-kart and a late 80's accord which is the car he actually commutes in. The Accord was spotless, and go-cart didn't have a speck of dirt on it and the tires were wrapped in plastic for "safe keeping". The car had aftermarket sway bars all around it, and coil-overs with a 1 inch lowering on the car. It looked as though the brakes had been modified as well. Overall the car handled excellently, and *did* perform very well. Maybe the CAI and the exhaust do help, but it just seems like those really long ones are *too* long...plus they cause that damn farty sound.

 

same as me, i just bought the car 2 feb 03, the first month i regret buying the car because inside and the muffler to noisy, very hard suspension too, i was thinking to sell the car, put an ad in trading newspaper, internet, about 3 people had try the car. now i'm not selling my R after i tried any other sports car,

 

Heh...I can't believe what I ended up getting. A white 1997 BMW M3. Not sure if I really like it, yet, but it was a good deal so I took it. I figure if I don't like it I can just sell it, bite the bullet, and get the R. I just noticed I seemed to have a craving for comfort...at least for a while. I think my old cooper took the tolerance out of me for a while...but it'll come back .

Thanks for your help, guys. I really appreciate it. You fellow are top notch .

 

I really like previous generation M3's - it's an awesome car. I'm sure you'll enjoy it.