Aiming at 170 WHP... suggestions?
Originally posted by Andy
Rip out your A/C and PS and get an AEM CAI and a good exhuast. Got me pretty damn close with a stock exhaust manifold and cat.
Rip out your A/C and PS and get an AEM CAI and a good exhuast. Got me pretty damn close with a stock exhaust manifold and cat.
Originally posted by Diabolik
You gained like 15 whp by pulling out AC and PS? Is this a common gain? If it is, I can live without them both for 15 whp!
-Diabolik
You gained like 15 whp by pulling out AC and PS? Is this a common gain? If it is, I can live without them both for 15 whp!
-Diabolik
That said, it was fun being faster, and I could totally live wihtout PS but I'm not sure I'd want to do without both on a daily driver. I have a '98 Civic EX I drive everyday so they hybrid was a weekend car but was driven a lot and was my daily driver when the '98 was in the shop for a few months. You get bigger biceps from pulling that wheel around when parking.
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Originally posted by import-tooner
I was just going to say something about that. And I can contest to that chart. The hatch was fast as hell!
I was just going to say something about that. And I can contest to that chart. The hatch was fast as hell!
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I don't think I can live without the comfort of A/C, and what about power steering? Wouldn't it make it less of a daily driver without it?
Ok.
So lets say I get the cams and the Hondata installed, do I need to dyno the car twice for the cams and the hondata? or can they both be done at the same time?
Ok.
So lets say I get the cams and the Hondata installed, do I need to dyno the car twice for the cams and the hondata? or can they both be done at the same time?
A typical GSR with bolt ons (intake, header, exhaust) will put down about 155 whp. So yes you will need to go with more than that.
What I would do is get whatever intake you want, a skunk2 intake manifold, skunk2 Stage 1 cams, upgraded valve springs and retainers, adjustable cam gears, a DC JDM 4-1 header (w/ 2.5" collector), 2.5" Carsound cat, and a custom 2.5" exhaust system with the muffler of your choice (with a 2.5" inlet of course).
One thing no one has mentioned yet is that since your car is a '98 you will have to convert to an OBD-I ECU to run a Hondata. Depending on local laws this may render your car non street legal. An A'PEXi V-AFC combined with the adjustable cam gears will give you enough tuning flexibility to dial it in on a dyno.
That only happened with the first batch of Crower cams that came out like three or four years ago. The issues have since been resolved.
Still, Crower VTEC cams don't make as much power as skunk2. They do make really good non-VTEC cams though.
What I would do is get whatever intake you want, a skunk2 intake manifold, skunk2 Stage 1 cams, upgraded valve springs and retainers, adjustable cam gears, a DC JDM 4-1 header (w/ 2.5" collector), 2.5" Carsound cat, and a custom 2.5" exhaust system with the muffler of your choice (with a 2.5" inlet of course).
One thing no one has mentioned yet is that since your car is a '98 you will have to convert to an OBD-I ECU to run a Hondata. Depending on local laws this may render your car non street legal. An A'PEXi V-AFC combined with the adjustable cam gears will give you enough tuning flexibility to dial it in on a dyno.
Originally posted by forum95
I would not go with the crower cams, my resources tell me they break, I'd rather go with the ITR cams and swap/change the valve's/springs
I would not go with the crower cams, my resources tell me they break, I'd rather go with the ITR cams and swap/change the valve's/springs
Still, Crower VTEC cams don't make as much power as skunk2. They do make really good non-VTEC cams though.
you all need to look at some articles on team-integra.net mike delaney got some awsome articles there on all motor setups he is the reason i decided to go all motor in my gsr
170whp is very easy to get you dont need to swap cams ... a set of adjustable cam gears and bolt on`s will put you past 170 with some tuning with cams a little bump in compression and a 2.5" exhaust and a 4-1 header with 2.5" collect on it with tuning would put you up around 200whp and by the way its not all about the peak hp you could have 200whp but it could be peaky and end up with a power band that only last a 1000 rpm or so so a 165-170whp car with good tuning and a flat tourqe curve and a consistant hp curve will be faster
170whp is very easy to get you dont need to swap cams ... a set of adjustable cam gears and bolt on`s will put you past 170 with some tuning with cams a little bump in compression and a 2.5" exhaust and a 4-1 header with 2.5" collect on it with tuning would put you up around 200whp and by the way its not all about the peak hp you could have 200whp but it could be peaky and end up with a power band that only last a 1000 rpm or so so a 165-170whp car with good tuning and a flat tourqe curve and a consistant hp curve will be faster
my friends gsr pulled 185 hp and 129 lbft when he got it tuned he had skunk 2 im, dc 4-2-1 header(2 piece) aem sri, skunk 2 stage 1 cams, skunk2 cam gears, tanabe srm exhaust, hi flow cat, vafc.
we don't know what it would've run though cause after he broke in the clutch he totaled th car.
we don't know what it would've run though cause after he broke in the clutch he totaled th car.
Originally posted by spooncivicb16b
my friends gsr pulled 185 hp and 129 lbft when he got it tuned he had skunk 2 im, dc 4-2-1 header(2 piece) aem sri, skunk 2 stage 1 cams, skunk2 cam gears, tanabe srm exhaust, hi flow cat, vafc.
we don't know what it would've run though cause after he broke in the clutch he totaled th car.
my friends gsr pulled 185 hp and 129 lbft when he got it tuned he had skunk 2 im, dc 4-2-1 header(2 piece) aem sri, skunk 2 stage 1 cams, skunk2 cam gears, tanabe srm exhaust, hi flow cat, vafc.
we don't know what it would've run though cause after he broke in the clutch he totaled th car.
Since he is talking about me I guess will say that I also had a Fidanza 7lb Flywheel and the guy who was tuning my car said I would be sitting right next to 190fwhp with a flywheel, so the flywheel was added after the tuning. I also had an AEM fuel rail and a FPR set at 5psi more then stock for the cams. And it was a CAI not SRI.
Qtiger, why would I have gained 10 hp with a different header?
Do you mean if I had a 4-1 header?
Qtiger, why would I have gained 10 hp with a different header?
Do you mean if I had a 4-1 header?


