Next week is finals week and when I get home after that, I am going to the car guru that skelly and I talk about and I am purchasing his hardly used:

Skunk2 Stage2 cams
Skunk2 valvetrain
Skunk2 cam gears

This and he is helping me install them at his house and making sure everything is done right. I am so pumped. After these are installed, I will buy skelly_gsr's jdm header and cat. My plans after this are to buy a gsr head, have it sent away to be p&p'd, valve angle job, and bored to .20 and RESLEVVED, and then ctr pistons will go in and my gsr IM will get a p&p also. Of course the fuel system will have to be uprgraded also. This is all over the next couple years due to money constraints. I am so pumped to get my NA setup started with cams, valvetrain and cam sprockets tho. Oh, I am also converting to obd1. Na>'s. olong: olong: olong: :cheers: :awais:

 

also consider hondata, basic version. help you tune. you can probably get another 10whp out of the hondata.

 

Yes, I plan on getting hondata also, along with a clutch, light flywheel and all the other goodies, and once I get the new head on I will probably upgrade to some stage 3 cams. Having said that, I am hoping in the end to make power safely to 10k rpms. I might get some rods too.
I am thinking about getting an fpr after I get the stage 2 cams and valvetrain on, how effective do you think it would be and how hard would it be to tune without taking my car to a dyno?

 

Nice to see that you're pumped about your NA setup, but if you are planning on spending all the money on this why not just get a turbo? The skunk cams, valve train and gears are a great mod for under a grand and will definitely give you an hp boost and be fun for daily driving but the rest of it I would just skip and go straight to a turbo. Way more hp, probably less problems, and way less down time for your teg. I actually had a similar setup to what you described and am now kicking myself for the amount of money and time that was spent into making a motor like that, but hey, to each his own.

 

I don't have the money to buy a turbo setup right now, and I really like the idea of reliability, strengh, and high revving that the NA setup has to offer. I also like NA cuz I can gradually buy more parts along the way, which fits my budget. Don't get me wrong, I love turbo's, but I think I am an NA kinda guy, atleast for this car.

 

to tell you the truth, there is more reliability in a turbo setup then there is in a n/a setup due to the fact that you are not always making that same amount of horsepower. A guy with a turbo will get better gas mileage also, and spank more booty for LESS money. what you are looking at is gonna be around 5k's for the finished product, where as a turbo will be 3k's plus getting it tuned. say about 3500 for the finished product with a turbo. Also if you are going all motor, then you may want to stroke it. I know you have a gs-r dont you?? If so, lets trade crankshafts. Mine has a longer stroke then yours and overall will give you more torque.

 

Im not sure how having a wider power band (turbo setup) makes your car more reliable? But, as I said, I want to mod my car gadually since I can't drop $3000 right now all at once for a turbo setup. A stroke kit, hmm I dunno.... I have been reading and researching and I don't think I want a larger stroke. I've read that I want to 'square out' my bore against my stroke and that when going na, one should bore out to around 85 or 86 mm with the gsr motor, which makes it closer to the stroke(87.2 mm?). Having that said, I believe that increasing your displacement when going na with the B18C1 is better off done with boring rather than increasing stroke. That's what I think so far anyway. Please correct me if my words contain any blasphemy. Any other opinions or criticisms are more than welcome. As far as reliablity goes, to me, it seems like having a turbo setup and adding even more moving parts would decrease reliability, or atleast it would for someone who has a turbo setup that doesnt know how to correctly maintain it(me). What kind of crankshaft do you have anyway?

 

it is just the stocker but if you would like a longer stroke(which i see you dont) then I could trade you plus some bucks.

 

Does anyone else (...Fatbooty) have any more comments or knowlege to be shared about whether boring out, and 'squaring out' the bore to the stroke is better than stroking the engine when going na with a gsr??? Opinions and criticisms welcome

 

more stroke means not being able to rev as high but more torque. boring gets you that extra torque without sacrificing revving capabilities. but you can only bore it out so much.