Older Honda Car, looking to use ZEX kit
Ok, my '94 Teg w/ the CTR motor got recked, (parts for sale, PM me) and I still have my ZEX kit, and was thinking of using it on my new car...
'85 CRX Si engine, tranny, in '84 HF chassis(mint chassis no rust)
'85 Si motor, 182k(1.5 stock non-vtec, SOHC, multi-FI, port-matched head, doesn't burn any oil), I have a DC header, 2.25" straight-piped exhaust to a APEXi N-1 N/A muffler, CAI, Venom ful pump, Moroso Oil pan, B&M oil cooler, S-AFC, 1st Gen Teg ECU(more fuel, high rev limiter), soon to have 210cc RC injectors, MSD-6BTM ignition
With all that added fuel, Could I run a 55 shot w/out charging my ignition timing? And what about the 65 shot? I'm sure w/ the 75 shot I'd have to change it? Also, I plan to buy an adjustable cam gear, will that affect my nitrous settings at all? Before I use my kit on the street/strip, I plan to dyno it, just getting some info before I install it and go to the dyno (sometime soon, when I get time)
Thanks guys.
Later,
Jay
'85 CRX Si engine, tranny, in '84 HF chassis(mint chassis no rust)
'85 Si motor, 182k(1.5 stock non-vtec, SOHC, multi-FI, port-matched head, doesn't burn any oil), I have a DC header, 2.25" straight-piped exhaust to a APEXi N-1 N/A muffler, CAI, Venom ful pump, Moroso Oil pan, B&M oil cooler, S-AFC, 1st Gen Teg ECU(more fuel, high rev limiter), soon to have 210cc RC injectors, MSD-6BTM ignition
With all that added fuel, Could I run a 55 shot w/out charging my ignition timing? And what about the 65 shot? I'm sure w/ the 75 shot I'd have to change it? Also, I plan to buy an adjustable cam gear, will that affect my nitrous settings at all? Before I use my kit on the street/strip, I plan to dyno it, just getting some info before I install it and go to the dyno (sometime soon, when I get time)
Thanks guys.
Later,
Jay
The stock Si engine makes ~100 ish HP. I'm making 135 on mine right now, and plan on bumping that up to around 150 soon, but after that the general findings on the old EW blocks is that the stock rods don't like to deal with that much extra stress.
No matter what size shot you use, you're going to want to retard the timing a few degrees just to make sure you don't pre-ignite. The EW engines like advanced timing, but if you're going to alter the oxygen content with nitrous, it can turn real bad real fast; especially since the Si engine has both vacuum and centrifugal advance. AKA, step on the gas, timing jumps up to facilitate hard acceleration. Once you come up through the revs, the timing doesn't really settle down until about 4000 RPM [where it is still advanced over the static setting], which means you only have 2500 RPM left to redline [even with the teg ECU, the cam will really only make power to 6200], and in gears 1-3, the timing never really does settle out too much.
The other thing to consider is the mileage on the engine. 100k miles on a Honda isn't bad, 100k on an engine that is over 17 years old could cause sprout some gremlins.
Just some things to keep in mind.
No matter what size shot you use, you're going to want to retard the timing a few degrees just to make sure you don't pre-ignite. The EW engines like advanced timing, but if you're going to alter the oxygen content with nitrous, it can turn real bad real fast; especially since the Si engine has both vacuum and centrifugal advance. AKA, step on the gas, timing jumps up to facilitate hard acceleration. Once you come up through the revs, the timing doesn't really settle down until about 4000 RPM [where it is still advanced over the static setting], which means you only have 2500 RPM left to redline [even with the teg ECU, the cam will really only make power to 6200], and in gears 1-3, the timing never really does settle out too much.
The other thing to consider is the mileage on the engine. 100k miles on a Honda isn't bad, 100k on an engine that is over 17 years old could cause sprout some gremlins.
Just some things to keep in mind.
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AIM: NDcissive
CRX and Pre '92 Civic, Engine Tech and Tuning, & Track and Autocross Forum Mod
Assuming your motor is in good shape, ie compression #'s, you'll be fine.
55 shot - stock timing
65 shot - 1-2 degrees retard
75 shot - 2-3 degrees retard
NGK BKR7e or 8e plugs, gapped at .030". DO NOT use platinum or iridium plugs with nitrous, only NGK copper.
55 shot - stock timing
65 shot - 1-2 degrees retard
75 shot - 2-3 degrees retard
NGK BKR7e or 8e plugs, gapped at .030". DO NOT use platinum or iridium plugs with nitrous, only NGK copper.
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