I'm just trying to get info on the jackson racing sc's. I've heard some people say negative things about them, so I was just wondering, are they worth getting?

Reliability, power gain, etc. It seems to be a cheaper alternative to a turbo, and possibly easier on an engine in the long run(?) Can anyone give me opinions on these things? Btw I already searched the forums to get bits and pieces so dont blab at me for posting =p

Add: engine has 96k on it

 

IMHO, the JRSC isn't worth the price. If it were cheaper, then yes. From what I've heard/seen the JRSC doesn't add that much horsepower for the money.

Also, I don't think I'd boost an engine with that many miles on it without a rebuild.

 

I'd much rather have a Vortec SC than a JRSC, but that's just me.

 

he JRSC wont add as much power compared to a turbo, though it should be more reliable in the long run. it is also less upgradeable than a turbo, but for a mild boost in power and not much loss of reliability its pretty damn nice.

 

NO its not worth it...wait till the end of this month for the Procharger to come out...http://www.procharger.com/honda.shtml
its much more reliable, and easier to install than the Vortech...plus its made of better materials, you can spin it harder, has a smaller comperssor that flows more CFM than the vortech so it spools up faster...you get the point..ohh..and it makes more hp off the bat..the Vortech was tested with all kinds or mods..like I/H/E to get the same hp that the Procharger is getting on a STOCK block..

 

OK, hold up a second. This is all the press release says:

The new H.O. Intercooled ProCharger system for 1999-2000 Civic Si applications produces an industry-leading 75-80% hp gain on stock VTEC DOHC motors running pump gas. Featuring a new 7" self-contained ProCharger model and air-to-air intercooler system as standard equipment, this new ProCharger system produces the largest power gains available for Honda applications. The supercharger system is 100% complete, and also features the easiest installation of any system for the Honda, with no need for oil lines, modification of the timing belt, or the hassles associated with air-to-water intercooling.

All that says is you get a centrifugal blower and air-air intercooler. Is there some other article I haven't seen from which you're drawing all of these claims?

 

they are talking about stock engine internals, they didnt mention anything about bolt on stuff, just fyi

 

if you compare comperable sc's from Vortech..and from Procharger...the procharger is going to make more hp..prochargers use billet impellers...vortech doesnt...the honda SC from Procharger is a sealed unit..doesnt need external oil lines..the Vortech does..Procharger's are by nature more efficient...http://www.procharger.com/h2hdt.shtml
that i think should show a bit of the differences in the two...granted its on a Ford Mustang...but it gives you an idea of just how effecient the Prochargers are...they can be spun harder, and last longer, flow more CFM, and produce a cooler charge of air...http://www.procharger.com/models.shtml http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/units/
there is the links to what models are offered by both Vortech and Procharger...if you look at Vortech's highest flowing SC the
VORTECH V-4 XX-TRIM SUPERCHARGER has a max boost of 29psi, 1850cfm, and max impeller speed of 58,000rpm....Prochargers biggest boosting SC the F-2M, it makes up to 40Lbs of boost, flows upto 2250CFM, and has a max impeller speed of 68,000 rpms....thats a lot if you ask me....but i guess someone will have to do a comparison on a dyno to show which system is better than the other...sorry to go off on a tangent...if you read what is listed...u should see that the prochargers are a better sc overall...

 

You have still made an inductive argument rather than a deductive one. For example, comparing how much each company's top-model compressor can flow provides no additional information on how an unknown compressor to be provided with the Procharger stacks up against a known compressor included with the Vortech kit. You can do no more than make an assumption.

I think it's a tad early to go one way or the other as far as Vortech vs. Procharger since there are NO details available whatsoever on the Procharger.

 

This is the same line of thinking that causes people to buy the largest possible turbocharger, which leads to shoddy power figures and tons of lag.

You can't compare supercharger power gains between a v8 and an I4, period. Torque is a huge factor here.

Secondly, you're comparing an intercooled SC to Vortech's base model... why not compare it to the aftercooled Vortech?