turbo help
What kit are you getting? I dont think its even possible to get a kit for $1500. Don't forget fuel, ignition and boost management-especially on stock internals.
350 HP is not going to happen with stock engine plus 9 PSI and $1,500. You can look for about 250 hp with the Turbonetics kit ($3,500).
Jake
350 HP is not going to happen with stock engine plus 9 PSI and $1,500. You can look for about 250 hp with the Turbonetics kit ($3,500).
Jake
Originally Posted by Orange Soda
bleh, any ways, what are some good idea's...i only have 1500 to spend..i know it can be done...the only think i want to buy new is the turbo(non bb)
But not sure which one, im going to be on stock internals when i get this kit on, so like 9psi.over all i want to reach between 350-450 Hp range....is it possible?
But not sure which one, im going to be on stock internals when i get this kit on, so like 9psi.over all i want to reach between 350-450 Hp range....is it possible?
9 psi with any streetable turbo setup will not get you anywhere near your goal and even if it did, you would need to upgrade your internals to run that kind of power reliably.
Originally Posted by Däs Schmoo
$1500 is stretching it way to tightly to get a quality and reliable setup. You need to factor in not only the parts, but the fuel management system and tuning.
9 psi with any streetable turbo setup will not get you anywhere near your goal and even if it did, you would need to upgrade your internals to run that kind of power reliably.
9 psi with any streetable turbo setup will not get you anywhere near your goal and even if it did, you would need to upgrade your internals to run that kind of power reliably.
but 1500 wont get me the rest huh?! fuck..

its a T3/T4 non bb turbo
Originally Posted by Orange Soda
i allready have a turbo, injectors and fuel rail( not installed), i have a 255lph walbro pump in the tank at the moment.
but 1500 wont get me the rest huh?! fuck..
its a T3/T4 non bb turbo
but 1500 wont get me the rest huh?! fuck..

its a T3/T4 non bb turbo
You could get the turbo up and running, but your expectations for how little money you have is outrageous.
Originally Posted by Orange Soda
i allready have a turbo, injectors and fuel rail( not installed), i have a 255lph walbro pump in the tank at the moment.
but 1500 wont get me the rest huh?! fuck..
its a T3/T4 non bb turbo
but 1500 wont get me the rest huh?! fuck..

its a T3/T4 non bb turbo
Depends, what size are your injectors?
If they are at least 450cc you are good for about 300whp.
You'll need a manifold ($350 or so), wastegate, piping, intercooler, bov...
And tuning...go with uberdata since it's the cheapest.
Or lower your expectations for the time being and run a fmu with stock injectors and about 5psi until you can afford to bump the power up properly
Realistically you can get your car running and turbocharged with that $1500, but don't expect close to 350whp, more like 220-230whp until you get some actual tuning. Sell the fuel rail, the stocker is good for well over 350whp (500whp or so)
$1500 is reasonable for a homemade turbo setup with tuning. once you are making like 300whp...i believe you have to upgrade fuel pump, ignition, and definetly forged internals. the power you are looking to make isnt anywhere near unreasonable with that engine, but it will be hard to make it with $1500, unless you have alot of hookups / fabrication. hope it wokrs out for you.
Would everyone please just shut the fuck up and listen to Schmoo? He is probably one of the most knowledgeable people on this forum, dont start acting like you know more. Damn im so sick of ignorant people. Im calm...
Originally Posted by Orange Soda
bleh, any ways, what are some good idea's...i only have 1500 to spend..i know it can be done...the only think i want to buy new is the turbo(non bb)
But not sure which one, im going to be on stock internals when i get this kit on, so like 9psi.over all i want to reach between 350-450 Hp range....is it possible?
But not sure which one, im going to be on stock internals when i get this kit on, so like 9psi.over all i want to reach between 350-450 Hp range....is it possible?
You might be able to find like a used Drag or revhard for that much. But it's probably not gonna have everything you'll need for a properly running turbo. You could do a HMT or "junkyard" setup to try and keep costs down. With this kind of setup typically people use T3 turbos, intercoolers, BOVs, and injectors out of OEM turbo cars. You'll probably only see between 200-250 WHP with this type of setup.
350-450 WHP is going to need a LOT of work done to the engine not to mention higher quality turbo parts. You're not gonna be able to do it with your average junkyard turbo. Maybe on a used T3/60-1 or T61 but those are a little expensive. You could just get a used T04E 50-60 trim turbo, but you'll be maxing them out to get to 350 WHP. If you're looking to make 350-450 WHP look to spend anywhere between $3000-$5000 for a good setup, plus another $1500-$2000 for upgraded pistons and rods.
Now as far as installation goes, a turbo install is pretty easy. It's kinda like you are doing an intake and header install, along with fuel injectors and a fuel pump, and some minor wiring. There are enough how-to threads on honda-tech to help you out in that area.
EDIT: as far as pricing goes you can probably find used T3/T04B or E's for $200-$300. Used log manifolds can be bought for $200-$400. A used downpipe can be found for around $100-$200, used deltagate or TIAL wastegate for $80-$160. A new johnnyracecar.com intercooler is around $200-$250. IC piping is around $100-$150, a 1G DSM BOV (I think 1st Gens are the good one) can be found for $20-$40. DSM 450 injectors which are good for up to ~300HP can be found for $40-80. You can be up and running with CromeFREE or Uberdata for about $150-$200, add another $300-$400 if you need to buy a laptop for tuning.
DOUBLE EDIT: opps, didn't see your post about already having hte turbo. Do you know what the turbo specs are? compressor trim and a/r and the turbine a/r?


