Better tuning potential 2003+ RSX Type-S or Integra GSR
09-27-2005, 06:12 PM
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Better tuning potential 2003+ RSX Type-S or Integra GSR
Which car is a better overall project tuner car if taking the FI route. I know the RSX has higher horsepower and a high C/R but I'm unsure of how well the engine works with boost in comparison to the B18C1... I'd consider the Integra Type-R in this lil debate, but those are harder to find.
09-27-2005, 08:16 PM
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Well IMO if your going forced induction te b18c1 will be more cost effective.
If your staying N/A then the k20 will be more cost effective in the long run.
I've swapped a k20 and it's a pain in the ass, but the gains are awesome. That motor loves to be modified and getting 250whp out of it isn't that hard N/A.
I'm currently building my b18c1 right now (sleeved w/rods and pistons)so soon I can speak from experience on how a built b18c runs w/boost. My previous boosted motor was a b16 (hence my screen name) and I made just shy of 300whp to run the times listed in my sig. That motor was stock.
If your staying N/A then the k20 will be more cost effective in the long run.
I've swapped a k20 and it's a pain in the ass, but the gains are awesome. That motor loves to be modified and getting 250whp out of it isn't that hard N/A.
I'm currently building my b18c1 right now (sleeved w/rods and pistons)so soon I can speak from experience on how a built b18c runs w/boost. My previous boosted motor was a b16 (hence my screen name) and I made just shy of 300whp to run the times listed in my sig. That motor was stock.
09-27-2005, 09:30 PM
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I like the looks of the RSX Type-S more, and it has a 6-speed tranny, but I know more of B18C1's making high horsepower, maybe the K-Series power is a tuner territory waiting to be explored.
09-28-2005, 12:29 PM
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The K series is a great motor to modify. However, one of the hardest to swap in, and not many people can do it. BTW, do you have an RSX or just thinking about swapping in a motor? i dont think im really on the same page w/ you lol
09-28-2005, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 1995Civic
The K series is a great motor to modify. However, one of the hardest to swap in, and not many people can do it. BTW, do you have an RSX or just thinking about swapping in a motor? i dont think im really on the same page w/ you lol
I'm pretty much looking for a nice looking new or used project car to work with that is from 2000+, N/A out of the factory, under $25,000.
so i came to conclusion that GSR, ITR, and the RSX Type-S come into this category.
09-28-2005, 11:40 PM
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The RSX-S is a much more potent engine than the B series. Most of the turbocharged GSR engines I tune make 300-350whp on stock internals and pump gas. The K series turbo cars I have tune have made 370-460 on pump gas and stock internals. Thats with a very conservative tune. The only things I dont like about the RSX-S is the transmission and the front suspension which flexes a lot under power. The transmission is pretty weak. Weve sheared off a few gears on the street.
09-29-2005, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by st00pid
The RSX-S is a much more potent engine than the B series. Most of the turbocharged GSR engines I tune make 300-350whp on stock internals and pump gas. The K series turbo cars I have tune have made 370-460 on pump gas and stock internals. Thats with a very conservative tune. The only things I dont like about the RSX-S is the transmission and the front suspension which flexes a lot under power. The transmission is pretty weak. Weve sheared off a few gears on the street.
09-29-2005, 11:28 AM
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All of it.
Assuming the driver doesn't make a serious error, the only real give point on a manual transmission is the clutch. You have to be making truly stupendous horsepower to be breaking other manual trans components.
Assuming the driver doesn't make a serious error, the only real give point on a manual transmission is the clutch. You have to be making truly stupendous horsepower to be breaking other manual trans components.
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09-29-2005, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by st00pid
The RSX-S is a much more potent engine than the B series. Most of the turbocharged GSR engines I tune make 300-350whp on stock internals and pump gas. The K series turbo cars I have tune have made 370-460 on pump gas and stock internals. Thats with a very conservative tune. The only things I dont like about the RSX-S is the transmission and the front suspension which flexes a lot under power. The transmission is pretty weak. Weve sheared off a few gears on the street.
09-30-2005, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BADST GS-R
I'd like to see what parts combinations you used to obtain those numbers.
If this is the same guy, he's a genious when it comes to tuning cars. I've never personally seen his work, but I've heard a lot of great story's and seen some awesome charts.
It's all about part combinations and tuning knowledge and he knows both.