Handling in H22a 5g Civic coupe?
I tried a search for this already, but I came up with nothing so:
Can anyone give me an idea of how handling would be affected if an H22a was put into a 95 Dx coupe? Like would it be a decent engine to autocross with? Also, like everyday handling without any suspension upgrades.
And if it'd be a bad idea to put an H22a in an EG coupe, could anyone suggest something better for it?
Thanks.
Can anyone give me an idea of how handling would be affected if an H22a was put into a 95 Dx coupe? Like would it be a decent engine to autocross with? Also, like everyday handling without any suspension upgrades.
And if it'd be a bad idea to put an H22a in an EG coupe, could anyone suggest something better for it?
Thanks.
It's a really heavy engine! For an autocross, I'd say go with the B16A, which is an excellent race engine. I myself am going that route, since I'll be autocrossing a lot in the future. I guess daily street driving shouldn't be a problem, it'll just be a b*tch without power steering.
It's not a bad idea to put the H22A in an EJ1 (which is probably what you were referring to) - if you're going to drag race it, which is what I'd do if I had an H22 in my Civic. Still, the B16A is a very good engine. Very streetable, and will still haul you around the occasional autocross. If you have the funds, I'd say go for a B18C1.
It's not a bad idea to put the H22A in an EJ1 (which is probably what you were referring to) - if you're going to drag race it, which is what I'd do if I had an H22 in my Civic. Still, the B16A is a very good engine. Very streetable, and will still haul you around the occasional autocross. If you have the funds, I'd say go for a B18C1.
I see people are still living in the stone age:
The H22 is only 75lbs heavier than a GSR motor, so it's not THAT heavy. And it can be autocrossed with much success it just takes a little work to the suspension.
So can we all get passed this, "it's too heavy" or "you can't autocross it" bull**** please?
Oh and by the way....White[PONY] what in the world is an EG coupe???????????? Don't you mean EJ, since that is the chassis code for all coupes. EG is the chassis code for a JDM 5th gen hatch only.
The H22 is only 75lbs heavier than a GSR motor, so it's not THAT heavy. And it can be autocrossed with much success it just takes a little work to the suspension.
So can we all get passed this, "it's too heavy" or "you can't autocross it" bull**** please?
Oh and by the way....White[PONY] what in the world is an EG coupe???????????? Don't you mean EJ, since that is the chassis code for all coupes. EG is the chassis code for a JDM 5th gen hatch only.
Ha ha, actually I think all USDM '92-'95 Civic's are technically EJ chassis's (including the hatches). It's just become easier to say EG instead of '92-'95 (I do it all the time). EG is technically the JDM designation for the 5th gen's (including the sedans or Ferio's as they call them).
As for the H22A for autocross, it will work very well. The extra torque from all the displacement will help pull the car out of slower corners a lot more than the high rpm powerband of a B16A and you'll do a lot more of that on an autoX course as opposed to high rpm screams down a straightaway. The added weight will be an issue, but that can be dealt with by using a proper suspension setup that helps rotate the car and cancels understeer. I'd actually be more concerned with wheel spin with the bigger H22A exiting corners than the weight problem. Seeya.
As for the H22A for autocross, it will work very well. The extra torque from all the displacement will help pull the car out of slower corners a lot more than the high rpm powerband of a B16A and you'll do a lot more of that on an autoX course as opposed to high rpm screams down a straightaway. The added weight will be an issue, but that can be dealt with by using a proper suspension setup that helps rotate the car and cancels understeer. I'd actually be more concerned with wheel spin with the bigger H22A exiting corners than the weight problem. Seeya.
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Actually it's not the weight of the engine per se, it's the way the engine sit's in the car. The way it sits shifts the weight, making it more difficult to turn.
My buddy has one in his EG, handles like ass, well at least compared to other hatches. But the thing is fast; 12.63 on streets.
My buddy has one in his EG, handles like ass, well at least compared to other hatches. But the thing is fast; 12.63 on streets.
Originally posted by MoFo
Actually it's not the weight of the engine per se, it's the way the engine sit's in the car. The way it sits shifts the weight, making it more difficult to turn.
My buddy has one in his EG, handles like ass, well at least compared to other hatches. But the thing is fast; 12.63 on streets.
Actually it's not the weight of the engine per se, it's the way the engine sit's in the car. The way it sits shifts the weight, making it more difficult to turn.
My buddy has one in his EG, handles like ass, well at least compared to other hatches. But the thing is fast; 12.63 on streets.
It won't absolutely destroy handling, but definately won't help things any.
Personally, I'd rather do a CRVTEC/sleeved b18c1. You can get similar or better power figures, don't have to spend cash on motor mounts, and save yourself those 50-70 pounds.
Personally, I'd rather do a CRVTEC/sleeved b18c1. You can get similar or better power figures, don't have to spend cash on motor mounts, and save yourself those 50-70 pounds.
Originally posted by qtiger
It won't absolutely destroy handling, but definately won't help things any.
It won't absolutely destroy handling, but definately won't help things any.
I don't think any fwd honda has a 50/50 weight split. The S2000 is close, but none of the others are nearly that good (including the Integra Type R).
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Originally posted by KawiGreenVTEC
We just got done establishing that, besides I didn't say it would destroy handling, what I said what is destroys any chance of having a perfect or close to perfect 50/50 weight ratio.
We just got done establishing that, besides I didn't say it would destroy handling, what I said what is destroys any chance of having a perfect or close to perfect 50/50 weight ratio.


