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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mario
You can hear it mostly... feel it a lil bit. I dunno... regardless, I still make no extra power with VTEC, and in fact my power drops. Which is completely wrong... I should be making peak power above 7,000 rpms, and not below it.

Tomorrow I will change the dizzy cap and rotor, check the plugs, and... I guess that's pretty much it as far as ignition goes. *shrugs*

how are they reading the afr? wide band mounted to your exhaust or shoved in the tail-pipe?
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by b16ahybrid
How much power are you shooting for?
Sure it'll hold 6psi to redline, but your not going to make a ton of power with that turbo. 200whp is about what you'll see out of that turbo before you start heating the charge temp up a lot. You can run more boost but the charge temp is going to climb pretty fast.
Stick with the 7 series and gap them about .032 or so.
I was hoping for 220+whp... I've seen it done before and people have verified the compressor maps lasting to 250/275whp.

Ok, I will regap them tomorrow.
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by b16ahybrid
how are they reading the afr? wide band mounted to your exhaust or shoved in the tail-pipe?
Roger that.
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mario
I was hoping for 220+whp... I've seen it done before and people have verified the compressor maps lasting to 250/275whp.

Ok, I will regap them tomorrow.

Not sure where you saw these maps, but I've yet to see a b16 make that kind of power with that turbo. The most i've seen was about 220whp @ about 12psi. Then again it's been a while since I've run that turbo so things could have changed since then....

Those maps that you speak of, are they in reference to the b16a or another motor? Each motor is going to flow differently.

Just out of curiosity how come you are running that turbo? The only reason why I ask is because when I swapped to my current turbo it made such a big difference (on the same tune and boost level) that I wished that I had switched sooner.
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by b16ahybrid
Not sure where you saw these maps, but I've yet to see a b16 make that kind of power with that turbo. The most i've seen was about 220whp @ about 12psi. Then again it's been a while since I've run that turbo so things could have changed since then....

Those maps that you speak of, are they in reference to the b16a or another motor? Each motor is going to flow differently.

Just out of curiosity how come you are running that turbo? The only reason why I ask is because when I swapped to my current turbo it made such a big difference (on the same tune and boost level) that I wished that I had switched sooner.
Seems unreal... I recall seeing people make great power with these turbochargers.

I'm running it because most T3/T4 setups just seem to be a complete overkill. I like the fast spool and efficiency...
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 06:17 AM
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Seems unreal... I recall seeing people make great power with these turbochargers.

I'm running it because most T3/T4 setups just seem to be a complete overkill. I like the fast spool and efficiency...

My t3t4 that I mentioned above starts to spool about 300rpm later then the t3 did.
After experiencing both, I won't run anything smaller then what I am currently running. Thats just my oppinion though.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by b16ahybrid
My t3t4 that I mentioned above starts to spool about 300rpm later then the t3 did.
After experiencing both, I won't run anything smaller then what I am currently running. Thats just my oppinion though.
Thanks man. Here's what I think: making 10-15whp over stock is unreal... even if I had a T25 turbo, it should make more than that. So I think I needa figure out the problem. If I were at 170/180/190whp and wasn't making power... your recommendation for a larger turbo would seem right.

I am going to replace the cap, rotor, and plugs today.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 07:59 AM
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maybe u should try burning another chip. your maps could be fucked up. when the first map for my car was done, the vtec engage wasnt even added in on accident. it could just be something like that. i didnt read everything, but what is your exhaust setup? try removing your exhaust and having just the downpipe, that might help. have you done a compression test? your motor could be fubared due too bad ringlands.
just read the whole thing. ditch that afc junk, you seem to have lots of nice stuff, dont punish your car with that thing, go with uberdata
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by raiden571
maybe u should try burning another chip. your maps could be fucked up. when the first map for my car was done, the vtec engage wasnt even added in on accident. it could just be something like that. i didnt read everything, but what is your exhaust setup? try removing your exhaust and having just the downpipe, that might help. have you done a compression test? your motor could be fubared due too bad ringlands.
just read the whole thing. ditch that afc junk, you seem to have lots of nice stuff, dont punish your car with that thing, go with uberdata
We did about 12 burns with Uberdata... each was getting better, be they all looked the same. Right when it hit VTEC (which it did -- DOHC VTEC is very audible and hard to miss) it just went haywire.

Exhaust setup is 2.5" downpipe, 2.25" catback. Yes, it is restrictive... but again, I know people who have made 210whp + on a Type R catback so please don't tell me that going from a 2.25" catback to a 2.5" catback will get me the 40-70whp that I don't have right now.

No compression test yet... I think I might do that today. Before turbo it was 185 on all 4.

I planned on using Uberdata, but the AFC was a lot quicker to tune. I dumped over $300 at the dyno yesterday and needed to get the car out of there since it obviously wasn't making any power.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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yeah, that exhaust isnt the greatest, but it isnt gonna rape you on power liek the charts were above. the ecu could eb in limp mode though. are you sure the afc is wired properly? its hard to tell whats wrong without being there. other than that i would say get a conmpression test and if it checks out fine, go over the entire car again and just look for anything that could be wrong. i know you said there are no leaks, but check again. rewire shit if you need too. reset the ecu, etc. im sure its something small and stupid, you just havent realized it yet.
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