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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Kai
No.

how are you going to say that when it's not true?
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by b16ahybrid
how are you going to say that when it's not true?
He's not going to go any faster with any other stock ECU. The ECU designed for his engine is already the best Honda has for it.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Kai
He's not going to go any faster with any other stock ECU. The ECU designed for his engine is already the best Honda has for it.
Sorry I didn't read into your expansive reply the first time. The post goes into chipping not just another stock ecu. Sure his stock ecu is best for his motor if it were stock, but without that info your great reply is worthless.
Why even bother posting if all your going to say is one word? You sure arn't helping him in any way, it's already been coverd that another stock ecu isn't in order. I guess redundancy is what gets you the most post counts
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by b16ahybrid
Sorry I didn't read into your expansive reply the first time.
Simple question, simple answer. I don't need to explain how other ECUs would throw various codes, run rich, run lean, or allow the engine to overrev and pop if I don't need to.
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but without that info your great reply is worthless.
So you think I should promote some aftermarket chip that will make his engine run stupid rich, advance the timing beyond reason, and disable half the check engine codes? Or perhaps drop a few hundred on a P28 and a wiring harness adapter only to see no gains? Yeah, right..
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I guess redundancy is what gets you the most post counts
Offly wordy noob, arn't you? Amazing how helpful your post is. :chuckles:
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Kai
Simple question, simple answer. I don't need to explain how other ECUs would throw various codes, run rich, run lean, or allow the engine to overrev and pop if I don't need to.So you think I should promote some aftermarket chip that will make his engine run stupid rich, advance the timing beyond reason, and disable half the check engine codes? Or perhaps drop a few hundred on a P28 and a wiring harness adapter only to see no gains? Yeah, right..Offly wordy noob, arn't you? Amazing how helpful your post is. :chuckles:
lets see I gave him a link that will provide him with a LOT more info then your lame attempt at helping him with "no"..good logic there.
A seasoned vet provides no actual information, and a noob provides a link that will answer some of this guys questions, and give him some knowledge to map out his choices. Along with deciding if his set-up would benifit from a different tune (hondata is programable you know)...

http://www.hondata.com/dynocivicsi.html
According to you "The ECU designed for his engine is already the best Honda has for it. " ...really? look at that dyno chart again. I believe there are more gains there then most aftermarket intakes or exhaust systems.

http://www.hondata.com/dynok20-05rsx.html
Your correct, honda left no room for improvement..

if you truely knew anything about tuning you would understand why your logic is complete hogwash. I Don't think I need to reiterate this but I will anyways.
Without knowing what he has done, your lack of an answer is about as helpfull as you original reply.
Do you know what he has done to his car? maybe he's running a drag kit, or maybe he's running 13.0:1 compression, maybe his car is bone stock, who knows ...


Try insulting me by calling me a noob all you want,I could care less. It's sad that you look at post count as knowledge. It's been nice chatting with you but I honestly have better things to do then to justify anything to you. Keep up the great job on the post count, pretty soon you may actually know what your talking about. until then keep posting lame uninformational replys to people questions without knowing anything about their set-ups.
Don't bother responding to this as I won't be having anything else to say to you. good day.

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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 10:54 AM
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BTW that first link was a bone stock motor, the second link the motor was stock except for the intake.....
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by b16ahybrid
http://www.hondata.com/dynocivicsi.html
According to you "The ECU designed for his engine is already the best Honda has for it. " ...really? look at that dyno chart again. I believe there are more gains there then most aftermarket intakes or exhaust systems.
If you backdate to OBD1 (lets see, a $200 jumper harness and $100 stock P28) then pay for 3-4 hours to dyno tune (~$300) and burn a custom chip, yeah, it better give a whopping FIVE! horsepower. My point is there is no stock ECU that will better his performance.
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http://www.hondata.com/dynok20-05rsx.html
Your correct, honda left no room for improvement..
Once again, a backdated and modified ECU. Not a stock plug-in.
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Do you know what he has done to his car? maybe he's running a drag kit, or maybe he's running 13.0:1 compression
Not likely to say the absolute least. Besides Mr. God-of-Tuning, you should know a stock engine would pop at 13:1 on the factory ECU.
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Try insulting me by calling me a noob all you want,I could care less. It's sad that you look at post count as knowledge.
Thanks, considering I am a professional Honda technician and all. You know, not that that means anything.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Kai
Thanks, considering I am a professional Honda technician and all. You know, not that that means anything.
That's the only thing you've brought to this thread with the ring of truth. Basically you're qualified to follow flow charts, and that's it.

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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PHiZ
That's the only thing you've brought to this thread with the ring of truth.
OK, then what stock Honda ECU would you drop into a '00 EX that would be worth his while? You didn't offer any suggestions. I'm working off the premise that this guy wants a direct plug in for a decent price, no custom burnt chips, Hondatas, Haltechs, etc. Hell, he doesn't even know what a chip does.
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Basically you're qualified to follow flow charts, and that's it.

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Sure bud, flow charts. :lmfao:
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