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Old Aug 30, 2002 | 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by MaxBoosT


Well, my bimmer buddies over at the dtmpower all swear by the Alpine alarms. They've said Clifford is not the same old Clifford, who were bought by DEI (Viper, Python, etc.) and now have the same basic internals as Viper alarms with just the Clifford branding.
Alpines are great alarms as well. I use Clifford on all of our show and competition vehicles, and Alpines on one of my personal cars.

As far as Clifford not being the same as the old Cliffords it depends on what models youre looking at. The only Cliffords that were designed by DEI is the new Matrix series of alarms.

If you look at the Intelleguard, Concept, G4, Solaris, and the Avant Guard series its the original Clifford design, technology, and components which are still better than any other alarm out there on the market in my opinion.

Most people dont have an opportunity to take a Clifford master certification course, so I'll explain one demo we did. We broke open a couple of brand new Viper and Python alarms and remotes and looked at thier internal components fresh out of thier retail boxes. We did the same with the Clifford models mentioned above, you can tell they were developed completely different.
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Old Aug 31, 2002 | 06:56 PM
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The easiest way to tell which DEI owned alarms are the same and different is to look at the install manuals available on the website. Anything G4 is unique to Clifford, Matrix is DEI with a Clifford remote.
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Old Sep 10, 2002 | 10:40 AM
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where are you guys finding these killer deals on the clifford alarms w/o install? id like to jump on it.
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Old Sep 10, 2002 | 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by arch iceman


Alpines are great alarms as well. I use Clifford on all of our show and competition vehicles, and Alpines on one of my personal cars.

As far as Clifford not being the same as the old Cliffords it depends on what models youre looking at. The only Cliffords that were designed by DEI is the new Matrix series of alarms.

If you look at the Intelleguard, Concept, G4, Solaris, and the Avant Guard series its the original Clifford design, technology, and components which are still better than any other alarm out there on the market in my opinion.

Most people dont have an opportunity to take a Clifford master certification course, so I'll explain one demo we did. We broke open a couple of brand new Viper and Python alarms and remotes and looked at thier internal components fresh out of thier retail boxes. We did the same with the Clifford models mentioned above, you can tell they were developed completely different.
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