93 accord question
Ok I have been looking into why my 93 accord seems to be eating the ouside of the front tires up so fast....
I noticed if I look at the car from the front I can see that my tires are tilted out on the top, not bowed in like when you lower a car.
So my question is will bad motor mounts (dont know how many this 4gen has) cause the front wheel or both wheels to bow out on the top if they are bad? Know what I mean...
Camera is out but made this drawing and attached it to show you what I am saying...
I had my neighbor look at it and said that the upper A arms are bad since they cant be adjusted to tilt at all to correct wheel tilt, I agree to an extent. they probably are an after affect of a possible motormount failure right?
And if infact a motor mount or all of them are the culprits, can I easily change them?
Any advise is greatly appreciated...
I noticed if I look at the car from the front I can see that my tires are tilted out on the top, not bowed in like when you lower a car.
So my question is will bad motor mounts (dont know how many this 4gen has) cause the front wheel or both wheels to bow out on the top if they are bad? Know what I mean...
Camera is out but made this drawing and attached it to show you what I am saying...
I had my neighbor look at it and said that the upper A arms are bad since they cant be adjusted to tilt at all to correct wheel tilt, I agree to an extent. they probably are an after affect of a possible motormount failure right?
And if infact a motor mount or all of them are the culprits, can I easily change them?
Any advise is greatly appreciated...
What you've drawn is called camber. Top drawing is positive camber angles; bottom looks like near zero.
Engine mounts don't hold the suspension pieces in place. It'll have to be the upper or lower control arms. Look for loose bushings, loose ball joints, stuff like that. If you don't find anything like that, there's only a tiny amount of motion you can get by loosening the mounting of the upper control arms & using the clearance in the mounting holes.
Next you can get adjustable upper control arms (camber kit). Before you do that, have an alignment shop actually measure it. Maybe partially an optical illusion, but at least you'll know how much you need, in solid numbers.
And also be aware that toe-in or toe-out can cause that kind of wear in your tires. It may not even be caused by the camber.
Engine mounts don't hold the suspension pieces in place. It'll have to be the upper or lower control arms. Look for loose bushings, loose ball joints, stuff like that. If you don't find anything like that, there's only a tiny amount of motion you can get by loosening the mounting of the upper control arms & using the clearance in the mounting holes.
Next you can get adjustable upper control arms (camber kit). Before you do that, have an alignment shop actually measure it. Maybe partially an optical illusion, but at least you'll know how much you need, in solid numbers.
And also be aware that toe-in or toe-out can cause that kind of wear in your tires. It may not even be caused by the camber.
Last edited by JimBlake; Jan 8, 2008 at 01:48 PM.
the wear on the tires is caused by the positive camber issue.
U'll have to take it to the alignment shop and have them find out exactly whats wrong w/ it.
Take it to firestone and tell them it needs alignment its only $40. As soon as they see that there's something bent, they'll take the car right off the lift and tell u about it and i dont think they charge you unless they fix the car.
Getting adjustable control arms wont help because they're only made to fix negative camber.
Top Control Arm bent?, more than likely NO. how can u bend it? and bending it will only cause negative camber.
Since "both of ur tires" have positive camber, i'm guessing u bent the stabilizer bar. It could also be a problem w/ ur shocks. bent shocks may be.
If not then both the bottom control arms could be bent, but its very rare to find "both" bent.
but make sure u take it to firestone, i think they've got the most advanced alignment machines so it'll tell u if there's something bent in there. thats ur best bid.
hope u get my point.
The bottom is 0.03-. i checked it on my computer.
U'll have to take it to the alignment shop and have them find out exactly whats wrong w/ it.
Take it to firestone and tell them it needs alignment its only $40. As soon as they see that there's something bent, they'll take the car right off the lift and tell u about it and i dont think they charge you unless they fix the car.
Getting adjustable control arms wont help because they're only made to fix negative camber.
Top Control Arm bent?, more than likely NO. how can u bend it? and bending it will only cause negative camber.
Since "both of ur tires" have positive camber, i'm guessing u bent the stabilizer bar. It could also be a problem w/ ur shocks. bent shocks may be.
If not then both the bottom control arms could be bent, but its very rare to find "both" bent.
but make sure u take it to firestone, i think they've got the most advanced alignment machines so it'll tell u if there's something bent in there. thats ur best bid.
hope u get my point.
The bottom is 0.03-. i checked it on my computer.
go to service imediately
Ok I have been looking into why my 93 accord seems to be eating the ouside of the front tires up so fast....
I noticed if I look at the car from the front I can see that my tires are tilted out on the top, not bowed in like when you lower a car.
So my question is will bad motor mounts (dont know how many this 4gen has) cause the front wheel or both wheels to bow out on the top if they are bad? Know what I mean...
Camera is out but made this drawing and attached it to show you what I am saying...
I had my neighbor look at it and said that the upper A arms are bad since they cant be adjusted to tilt at all to correct wheel tilt, I agree to an extent. they probably are an after affect of a possible motormount failure right?
And if infact a motor mount or all of them are the culprits, can I easily change them?
Any advise is greatly appreciated...
I noticed if I look at the car from the front I can see that my tires are tilted out on the top, not bowed in like when you lower a car.
So my question is will bad motor mounts (dont know how many this 4gen has) cause the front wheel or both wheels to bow out on the top if they are bad? Know what I mean...
Camera is out but made this drawing and attached it to show you what I am saying...
I had my neighbor look at it and said that the upper A arms are bad since they cant be adjusted to tilt at all to correct wheel tilt, I agree to an extent. they probably are an after affect of a possible motormount failure right?
And if infact a motor mount or all of them are the culprits, can I easily change them?
Any advise is greatly appreciated...


