CG5TougeMaster - dude, read the WHOLE THING. Do you even know how exhaust work and the design of the Greddy SP2?

1. I did not say Greddy is poser. I'm saying LOUD exhausts is played out and would make him look like a poser.
2. SP2, by weak, do you mean the SOUND? If so, I can tell that you're a loud exhaust person. Just like how I was years ago.
3. Read up and learn. Regardless, the gain difference between the 2 systems are close to nothing at all. Unless he has a whole lot more to back it up.
4. Read my previous reply beyond the 1st Line that you're stuck with.

Welcome to HAN and have a nice day.

btw, tsudo exhaust are very loud. The quality is OKAY but won't last you for a long time.

 

no ass monkey, im not talking about sound...im talking about performance. i personally don't care about the sound. i'd prefer a quieter exhaust, but i'm not going to sacrifice performance for it. The EVO2 yields better gains, period. no matter how large or how small they are, the fact is that it does. little gains add up. say you add an intake that gains 2hp more than another company's, then you add an exhaust that adds 3 hp more than it's competitor, you've got a difference of 5hp. do that 3 or 4 times, with header, pulleys, intake manifold, etc, and those small gains will add up to a noticible gain. another downside to the SP2, it's not good for turbo's. if the guy is planning to turbo down the road, or some other type of forced induction, there's no question, that the EVO2 would be the best choice. better flow=more power...side effect is a little more noise which people like me are more than willing to live with. if you want better than stock, get the SP2, if you want the best, get the EVO2. if all you're going for is sound then you're obviously building the car for the wrong reasons...so let's recap...i build for performance, you build for sound...so who's the poser? and as for "welcome to HAN" i've been here for a while, shut down many a dumbass in my day, score one more for the hometeam...anybody up for some touge?

 

EVO2 is the BEST, and good for turbo?................oh dear. I didn't insult u, but seem like you got a short fuse. Oh well, typical reaction I'd expected from someone like that. Can you tell the difference between a statement and a question? if I remember correctly, I was asking a question and reponse to it as an "IF." A loud exhaust person DOES NOT mean that you build for fart can loud ass car. It's simply whether your exhaust is QUIET or Loud, that simple. Then again, you might have went too far with your own thinking.

Get it straight:
1. I'm not bashing your EVO2 exhaust AT ALL.
2. I just gave the guy an open opinion on what would be good due to what's he doing: REPLACING HIS EXHAUST ONLY.
3. You "so called knowledge" surprised me to how did you add them numbers and not mentioning about other more important factors than just simple bolt-ons.
4. If he is to go for turbo, EVO2 is NOT the best. Everyone with little knowledge about performance should know that. Wrong Piping size.
5. For the 3rd time, I DID NOT call you the poser. I simply asked you to read beyond the 1st line so that you can at least comprehend what I was trying to tell the guy on my first reply. Yet your responses are so immature.


Then again, let see. I've own 3 accords in 3 different way, N2O, NA, and FI. I used to work at my cousin shop, working and tuning cars, working with skyline, supras, evos, etc. Yet, I still think that my knowledge is small. I don't go around boasting about this and that and tried to act immaturely and insult others so I can be "COOL and SCORE for the home team". I'm here to help other people as everyone else.

 

thanx for all da input fellas...i was lookin at a universal stainless steel cat wit a 2.5 inlet/outlet...looks pretty nice...ne wayz...i didnt mean to start a lil controversy i like da look of da apexi ws2...what about tanabe exhausts?

 

naw, it's okay dude. Seems like I got on his bad side or something. Anyways, to answer your question, Tannabe is nice. It's about the same as the Greddy EVO2 that he has.

Also, considering the catalytic converter that you're buying, make sure you get a good one (ie: magnaflow's AKA Car-sound) Ebay's generics are like hit or miss. I've had bad experience with them (where the item is only 2" piping instead of 2.5" like described). So if you're looking to get one from ebay, make sure it's something good like a car-sound cat or that sort, not something nice looking and generic.

If you're getting 2.5" in/outlet, make sure you have a matching header (2.5" outlet) and a matching catback with 2.5" piping also. Or else the performance will not be good, infact, could be worsen.

If you plan to spend some money into good parts with just bolt ons - AKA direct replacement then get something that's already premade for the vehicle directly from places like nopionline.com or magnaflow.com. My recommendation is:
1. DC Sport Ceramic Header
2. Magnaflow (AKA car-sound) catalytic converter that made specificly for your car
3. Any of the catback I listed on my first reply.

You can go custom for addition gains and performance that requires some fabrication (which any muffler shop or welder can do it for you at a decent price) then get:

1. Kamikaze 4-1 header from bigjoshracing.com (call them to specify that you want a 2.5" collector for the header. While you're at it, get an addition set of gasket for only 10 bucks extra)
2. Car-sound universal 2.5" catalytic converter with 2 O2 Bungs and a set of matching flanges for the header (3 bolts) and catback (I don't know, check with kteller.com)
3. 2.5" custom piping kit for your accord (kteller.com). Comes with all flanges
4. A good magnaflow straight through muffler with 2.5" inlet and OVAL type (will be less louder than a round type). A 2.5" round body small muffler to use it as your resonator (aka glasspack) to reduce the noise. Alternative, you can check out the mugen twin loop design muffer (OBX makes the replica twin loop that goes for ~100 bucks on ebay) It'll reduce the sound dramatically. I have one, but yet to install it on my other car since it's still in the shop and I barely have time to finish it

That and bring it all to the muffler shop or have someone who knows how to weld to weld it on. It's very easy if that person know how to weld and shouldn't cost you more than 50 bucks for welding labor.

btw, the costs of the 2 setups are about the same, if not, option 2 would be a lil bit cheaper. The only downside is that it requires some work.

Good luck and have fun with your project :thumbup:

 

well heres some of da info on dat stainless steel cat i was talkin bout...

Up for auction is a brand NEW 2.5" T-304 Stainless Steel High Flow Catalytic Converter.

Its made by the same company who makes the Dynatech Converters which sell in Summit for $149.95 + their s/h charge. (last pic is from feb-05 summit catalog)


...i dont know...i mite just go wit da magnaflow as suggested