hmmmm... yadda yadda yadda... looks like good interesting info... but I see yadda yadda yadda. Anyone here drive a shopping cart?

 

LOL

I was using that as an example

 

It is great that you have mastered the cut and paste function on your computer. You are totally missing the point. I am just saying that camber is NOT adjustable without camber kits. Have you ever seen the upper control arms? They are just metal rods that don't adjust in any way, shape or form. That is my point.

 

OK, instead of going back and forth, just go to any shop that does alignments and ask them how (or if) they align the front/rear wheels wit hstock suspension

 

I have had 3 alignments since my 2 inch drop and if I don't tell them that I have a camber kit, they won't adjust it because it isn't adjustable on a stock car. They told me that they can only adjust toe in/out on the front and rear.

 

Well, on all of my cars. I dropped them no more than 1.5 inches and I just got a wheel alignment and everything was fine. Especially when I had my 97 Mazda. I dropped 1.5 all around and forgot to get an alignment. 6 months later The inner tires were so bad that the steel was showing (Negative Camber) Although the rear was perfectly fine. I got a 4 wheel alignemnt and since then everything was fine.

 

backs still look brand new ... front is starting to show inside wear after 12k

tokico illuminas with h&r sports with 215/45/17 eneki cdr 9's

 

Wouldn't the width of a tire exaggerate inside tire wear if the camber is too neg.? My son also contends that when he had the front of his Gen2 Intergra aligned to spec (with a camber kit installed up front & the longer bolt & washers deal on the rear, that dialing the front end into factory spec made the rear neg. camber worse than it had been. I think his Integra has a combination of issues - already worn-on-the-inside rear tires that were rotated from upfront, aggressive cornering, wider than stock wheels/tires, and a toe out of spec in the rear, and possibly at both ends. (he's riding on 15"/50series tires on 15X7 wheels, H&R Sport Springs & Tokico HPs, and a stiffer & beefier rear sway bar)

Would a lower 'tie-bar' help in the rear to limit movement that's a function of older bushings, etc.? The front of his Integra seems much tighter w/ the install. of a strut-tower brace, and I suspect that a thicker bar up front would limit some adverse tire wear - at least when in certain segments of a turn, when a lowered suspension is not quite in alignment due to geometry changes, and for the typically much wider footprint from upgraded/lower-profile tires.

 

hmm I have the sames setup...but The fronts were adjustable but they could correct the rear totally..so my rear is a little off but the front is fine

 

Bump - I never got a response to the questions I asked two posts back. . .