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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by glt4392
skabone69- Great Ride!!! How far did you drop your car? You did have aftermarket shocks and springs and it looks lowered so I am assuming. With 225s do you get any buldging on the sides? How long have you had the tires? 225s are (according to my wheel outlet guys and even the places like firestone are only recomended for 18s). They tolds me that if you run them on 17 you will eventually deform the tires side or get a "bulge". But you learn something every day specially when people are not trying to sell you semething!! Thanks guys
thanks! I'm dropped on Tein SS coilovers about 1.7-1.8 all around. I should have clarified a bit more about the 225s. A buddy of mine runs 225/45/17s on his 6th gen and he has been running them for a while(2+ years) and they handle great. He has never had a tire bulge on him. I've driven the car and it is more stable than the 215/45/17s that I run. as for the spedo being a little off a good way to think about it is that the spedo will read that you are going a little faster than what you are really going. the spedo will be off by 1mph, which is not too much of a difference. that's not a bad thing, if anything its a little bit of piece of mind. If you pass a cop on a 65mph speed limit road and your spedo is reading 70 for example, your real speed will be 69 ish so if a cop were to radar you, you would only be going 4 over, and you would most likely be ignored.

If you are looking for a good summer tire I'd highly recommend the Yokohama AVS ES 100s. www.tire.com is selling 215/45/17s for 100/tire, which is a really good price. you'll get great handling, and you should get a season out of them. WARNING!!! do not try to use them in the snow, I had to drive them in the snow once and it is not safe to drive in them on those type of conditions. I was fearing for my life. I'm going to pick up another set for the next season. you can't beat the performance for the price you pay.
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 07:07 AM
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Who would put 205/40/17 on an Accord lol...that's a great pic.
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 07:46 AM
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I can laugh now too but I was not when I was paying for 18s and ordering springs and struts soon after I did that on my car also a while back!!!...
But I guess I would not have gotten to research so much about it and learn so much from shops and sites like this after making that mistake because I did not do my homework. You live you learn I guess!!!
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by glt4392
You don't see many people lowering their cars and keeping the stock 15s with /65s on do you? It just does not look right. Also putting too big a profile on big rims takes away from the sporty look or at least the look most go for with low profiles now days. They would just look like a bigger version of the stocks and will actually raise the car if you go too big on the tire profile.
I see quite a few cars in person and on forums rolling on stock size rims. If you think about it, having the stockies with the bigger profile tires enhances the drop because the wheel gap is considerably smaller than the sidewall and takes up less percentage of the distance from the edge of the rim to the fender. With bigger rims and lower profile tires, the wheel gap becomes a greater percentage of that distance, so the drop *looks* smaller when it is more than likely the same. I experienced that when going from my stock 15s to 17s.

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Best thing to do is know what you are going for, compare to others to see what they did and what you like in places like www.cardomain.com and you will make the right choice.
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as for the spedo being a little off a good way to think about it is that the spedo will read that you are going a little faster than what you are really going. the spedo will be off by 1mph, which is not too much of a difference. that's not a bad thing, if anything its a little bit of piece of mind. If you pass a cop on a 65mph speed limit road and your spedo is reading 70 for example, your real speed will be 69 ish so if a cop were to radar you, you would only be going 4 over, and you would most likely be ignored.
I think that statement is backwards, assuming you're talking about stock vs a wheel with a bigger diameter. The larger overall diameter will lead to your speedo reading slower than your actual speed. To move the same distance, a wheel with larger diameter has to rotate less than a wheel with a smaller diameter. Try that tire calculator that I linked to. My new rims with 215/45/17 tires are 24.6 inches in diameter vs 24.2 inches for my stock 195/60/15. My new tire results in a reading that is 1.7% too slow, so my speedo will read 60 when I'm really going 61. If you're talking stock vs smaller diameter, pretend I didn't say anything.
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CalBearz24
I think that statement is backwards, assuming you're talking about stock vs a wheel with a bigger diameter. The larger overall diameter will lead to your speedo reading slower than your actual speed. To move the same distance, a wheel with larger diameter has to rotate less than a wheel with a smaller diameter. Try that tire calculator that I linked to. My new rims with 215/45/17 tires are 24.6 inches in diameter vs 24.2 inches for my stock 195/60/15. My new tire results in a reading that is 1.7% too slow, so my speedo will read 60 when I'm really going 61. If you're talking stock vs smaller diameter, pretend I didn't say anything.
your right I meant the reverse. my b.
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by CalBearz24
I see quite a few cars in person and on forums rolling on stock size rims. If you think about it, having the stockies with the bigger profile tires enhances the drop because the wheel gap is considerably smaller than the sidewall and takes up less percentage of the distance from the edge of the rim to the fender. With bigger rims and lower profile tires, the wheel gap becomes a greater percentage of that distance, so the drop *looks* smaller when it is more than likely the same. I experienced that when going from my stock 15s to 17s.
:werd: it's amazing how many people don't understand the optical illusion of sidewall height vs wheel gap.

I see just as many cars lowered on stock wheels as I do on aftermarket...but some of that is because here in the snow/rust belt lots of people switch back to stock wheels with all seasons or snow tires for winter.
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 03:41 AM
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Hi there.....

I just wanted to ask you guys this qs... since my Honda Dealer adviced me NOT TO but any after Market wheels as they might give the car a lot of vibration problems. IS THIS TRUE ?? or just a Sales trick ?

Second which brand is a good for the 2003 sedan ?

My qs. might be silly so excuse me..... i just got the upgrade fever from the NFS Underground 2 game
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 05:17 AM
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I have an easy question. I have 17s (non-stock) on my Accord Coupe and when I took it to have them balanced at my shop they said, it was stupid to have wheels like that because they cannot be balanced. I found this hard to believe considering so many people have them. Do I have to take it to a performance shop or something to get them balanced?

I want to get mine balanced because over 60mph I get this slight vibration in the driving wheel which sucks.

I still can't figure out why yall put these wheels are your cars!

(Attached is a pic of my wheels)
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 06:27 AM
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"by jschmid-I see just as many cars lowered on stock wheels as I do on aftermarket...but some of that is because here in the snow/rust "

CalBearz24,jschmid-you are right about the ilusion. BUT isn't this entire string about "looks" and achieving the "sporty" car look with the right wheel/tire combo? Performance cars will most likely not have 15s or /65s on. I am also leaving out having to change the tires out of necessity. I lived in KC and I would have driven on tractor tires during winter if I could , screw the sporty look ! I have seen stocks on lowered cars but mostly on smaller cars like civics where the wheel-well is much smaller and your wheels needs allso smaller. I am sure I will find an accord too if I look but Accords have HUGE wheel-wells specially coupes. So if you are doing that much work on your car and your final goal is looks I am not too sure you will be happy with the stocks. Most I have seen in cardomain that are lowered are running 17s or 18s to compensate for the loss of sidewall. My statement "You don't see many people lowering their cars and keeping the stock 15s with /65s on do you?" is only as far as looks is concerned. Also, some keep a set of sporty wheels with performance tires AND a set of smaller rims with more profile so they can put them on if I am taking a long trip or I know I will be driving a while. This is great to save the tires and for confort. I also see many people driving on 14" "spinner" hubcabs and that does not mean that put against the real thing they will look as good but I guess if you are happy with what you did that is all that matters.
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 07:53 AM
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I have an odd size on my 17's but the ride is so nice and tires dont look ballony.

205/45/17


A pic of my wifes car wrapped in same tires but 205/40/17
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